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From: Caleb Sander Mateos <[email protected]>
To: Keith Busch <[email protected]>
Cc: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
	 Riley Thomasson <[email protected]>,
	[email protected],  [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] uring_cmd SQE corruptions
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:46:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADUfDZqa5v7Rb-EXp-v_iMXAESts8u-DisMtjdBEu2+kK-ykeQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z60s3ryl5UotleV-@kbusch-mbp>

On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 3:21 PM Keith Busch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 03:07:30PM -0800, Caleb Sander Mateos wrote:
> >
> > Yes, we completely agree. We are working on incorporating Keith's
> > patchset now. It looks like there is still an open question about
> > whether userspace will need to enforce ordering between the requests
> > (either using linked operations or waiting for completions before
> > submitting the subsequent operations).
>
> In its current form, my series depends on you *not* using linked
> requests. I didn't think it would be a problem as it follows an existing
> pattern from the IORING_OP_FILES_UPDATE operation. That has to complete
> in its entirety before prepping any subsequent commands that reference
> the index, and using links would get the wrong results.

As implementers of a ublk server, we would also prefer the current
interface in your patch series! Having to explicitly order the
requests would definitely make the interface more cumbersome and
probably less performant. I was just saying that Ming and Pavel had
raised some concerns about guaranteeing the order in which io_uring
issues SQEs. IORING_OP_FILES_UPDATE is a good analogy. Do we have any
examples of how applications use it? Are they waiting for a
completion, linking it, or relying on io_uring to issue it
synchronously?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-12 23:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-12 20:45 [PATCH 0/2] uring_cmd SQE corruptions Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-02-12 20:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] io_uring/uring_cmd: don't assume io_uring_cmd_data layout Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-02-12 20:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] io_uring/uring_cmd: switch sqe to async_data on EAGAIN Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-02-12 20:55 ` [PATCH 0/2] uring_cmd SQE corruptions Jens Axboe
2025-02-12 21:02   ` Jens Axboe
2025-02-12 21:58     ` Caleb Sander
2025-02-12 22:34       ` Jens Axboe
2025-02-12 22:52         ` Caleb Sander
2025-02-12 22:56           ` Jens Axboe
2025-02-12 21:54   ` Caleb Sander
2025-02-12 22:39     ` Jens Axboe
2025-02-12 23:07       ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-02-12 23:21         ` Keith Busch
2025-02-12 23:46           ` Caleb Sander Mateos [this message]
2025-02-12 23:55             ` Jens Axboe
2025-02-13 16:28               ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-02-13 16:11             ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-02-13 14:48   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-02-13 18:13 ` Jens Axboe

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