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From: Caleb Sander Mateos <csander@purestorage.com>
To: Sidong Yang <sidong.yang@furiosa.ai>
Cc: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	 Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] rust: io_uring: introduce rust abstraction for io-uring cmd
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 09:55:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADUfDZrWMrECM_LSh-nsurRBadskq_Z9wh_7nO1FUUxvOVHmKg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aJWfl87T3wehIviV@sidongui-MacBookPro.local>

On Fri, Aug 8, 2025 at 2:56 AM Sidong Yang <sidong.yang@furiosa.ai> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 03:38:24PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> > On Wed Aug 6, 2025 at 2:38 PM CEST, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> > > Hi Benno,
> > >
> > >> On 2 Aug 2025, at 07:52, Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Fri Aug 1, 2025 at 3:48 PM CEST, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> > >>>> On 27 Jul 2025, at 12:03, Sidong Yang <sidong.yang@furiosa.ai> wrote:
> > >>>> +    #[inline]
> > >>>> +    pub fn pdu(&mut self) -> &mut MaybeUninit<[u8; 32]> {
> > >>>
> > >>> Why MaybeUninit? Also, this is a question for others, but I don´t think
> > >>> that `u8`s can ever be uninitialized as all byte values are valid for `u8`.
> > >>
> > >> `u8` can be uninitialized. Uninitialized doesn't just mean "can take any
> > >> bit pattern", but also "is known to the compiler as being
> > >> uninitialized". The docs of `MaybeUninit` explain it like this:
> > >>
> > >>    Moreover, uninitialized memory is special in that it does not have a
> > >>    fixed value ("fixed" meaning "it won´t change without being written
> > >>    to"). Reading the same uninitialized byte multiple times can give
> > >>    different results.
> > >>
> > >> But the return type probably should be `&mut [MaybeUninit<u8>; 32]`
> > >> instead.
> > >
> > >
> > > Right, but I guess the question then is why would we ever need to use
> > > MaybeUninit here anyways.
> > >
> > > It's a reference to a C array. Just treat that as initialized.
> >
> > AFAIK C uninitialized memory also is considered uninitialized in Rust.
> > So if this array is not properly initialized on the C side, this would
> > be the correct type. If it is initialized, then just use `&mut [u8; 32]`.
>
> pdu field is memory chunk for driver can use it freely. The driver usually
> saves a private data and read or modify it on the other context. using
> just `&mut [u8;32]` would be simple and easy to use.

MaybeUninit is correct. The io_uring/uring_cmd layer doesn't
initialize the pdu field. struct io_uring_cmd is overlaid with struct
io_kiocb's cmd field. struct io_kiocb's are allocated using
kmem_cache_alloc(_bulk)() in __io_alloc_req_refill(). io_preinit_req()
is called to initialize each struct io_kiocb but doesn't initialize
the cmd field. As Sidong said, it's uninitialized memory for the
->uring_cmd() implementation to use however it wants for the duration
of the command.

Best,
Caleb

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-08 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-27 15:03 [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] rust: miscdevice: abstraction for uring-cmd Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] rust: bindings: add io_uring headers in bindings_helper.h Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] rust: io_uring: introduce rust abstraction for io-uring cmd Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 13:48   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 10:52     ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-06 12:38       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06 13:38         ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-08  6:56           ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-08  8:49             ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-08  9:43               ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-09 10:18                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-09 12:51                   ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-09 20:22                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-10 13:50                       ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-10 14:27                         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-10 14:46                           ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-10 20:06                             ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-11 12:34                               ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-11 12:44                                 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-11 14:50                                   ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-12  8:34                                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-12 12:19                                       ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-12 12:43                                         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-12 13:56                                           ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-12 13:59                                             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-12 14:38                                       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-13  0:54                                         ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-08 13:55             ` Caleb Sander Mateos [this message]
2025-08-09 12:53               ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-05  3:39     ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-05 13:02       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06  9:11         ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] rust: miscdevice: add uring_cmd() for MiscDevice trait Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 14:04   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07  7:46     ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] samples: rust: rust_misc_device: add uring_cmd example Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 14:11   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07  6:30     ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 17:17 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] rust: miscdevice: abstraction for uring-cmd Daniel Almeida
2025-08-01 14:13 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07  6:17   ` Sidong Yang

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