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From: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
	 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	 Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, horms@kernel.org,  davem@davemloft.net,
	sdf@fomichev.me, dw@davidwei.uk,  michael.chan@broadcom.com,
	dtatulea@nvidia.com, ap420073@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 04/22] net: clarify the meaning of netdev_config members
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:44:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHS8izMAc+fTADD9Uzj-XssdSiUYt81U59+hYkB5b=4W9sGz8Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d8409af4cfe922f663a2f8a7de5fc4881b7fa576.1753694913.git.asml.silence@gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 4:03 AM Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
>
> hds_thresh and hds_config are both inside struct netdev_config
> but have quite different semantics. hds_config is the user config
> with ternary semantics (on/off/unset). hds_thresh is a straight
> up value, populated by the driver at init and only modified by
> user space. We don't expect the drivers to have to pick a special
> hds_thresh value based on other configuration.
>
> The two approaches have different advantages and downsides.
> hds_thresh ("direct value") gives core easy access to current
> device settings, but there's no way to express whether the value
> comes from the user. It also requires the initialization by
> the driver.
>
> hds_config ("user config values") tells us what user wanted, but
> doesn't give us the current value in the core.
>
> Try to explain this a bit in the comments, so at we make a conscious
> choice for new values which semantics we expect.
>
> Move the init inside ethtool_ringparam_get_cfg() to reflect the semantics.
> Commit 216a61d33c07 ("net: ethtool: fix ethtool_ringparam_get_cfg()
> returns a hds_thresh value always as 0.") added the setting for the
> benefit of netdevsim which doesn't touch the value at all on get.
> Again, this is just to clarify the intention, shouldn't cause any
> functional change.
>
> Signed-off-by: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
> ---
>  include/net/netdev_queues.h | 19 +++++++++++++++++--
>  net/ethtool/common.c        |  3 ++-
>  2 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/net/netdev_queues.h b/include/net/netdev_queues.h
> index ba2eaf39089b..81df0794d84c 100644
> --- a/include/net/netdev_queues.h
> +++ b/include/net/netdev_queues.h
> @@ -6,11 +6,26 @@
>
>  /**
>   * struct netdev_config - queue-related configuration for a netdev
> - * @hds_thresh:                HDS Threshold value.
> - * @hds_config:                HDS value from userspace.
>   */
>  struct netdev_config {
> +       /* Direct value
> +        *
> +        * Driver default is expected to be fixed, and set in this struct
> +        * at init. From that point on user may change the value. There is
> +        * no explicit way to "unset" / restore driver default.
> +        */

Does the user setting hds_thres imply turning hds_config to "on"? Or
is hds_thres only used when hds_config is actually on?

-- 
Thanks,
Mina

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-28 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-28 11:04 [RFC v1 00/22] Large rx buffer support for zcrx Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 01/22] docs: ethtool: document that rx_buf_len must control payload lengths Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 18:11   ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-28 21:36   ` Mina Almasry
2025-08-01 23:13     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 02/22] net: ethtool: report max value for rx-buf-len Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-29  5:00   ` Subbaraya Sundeep
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 03/22] net: use zero value to restore rx_buf_len to default Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-29  5:03   ` Subbaraya Sundeep
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 04/22] net: clarify the meaning of netdev_config members Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 21:44   ` Mina Almasry [this message]
2025-08-01 23:14     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 05/22] net: add rx_buf_len to netdev config Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 21:50   ` Mina Almasry
2025-08-01 23:18     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 06/22] eth: bnxt: read the page size from the adapter struct Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 07/22] eth: bnxt: set page pool page order based on rx_page_size Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 08/22] eth: bnxt: support setting size of agg buffers via ethtool Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 09/22] net: move netdev_config manipulation to dedicated helpers Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 10/22] net: reduce indent of struct netdev_queue_mgmt_ops members Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 11/22] net: allocate per-queue config structs and pass them thru the queue API Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 12/22] net: pass extack to netdev_rx_queue_restart() Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 13/22] net: add queue config validation callback Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 22:26   ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 14/22] eth: bnxt: always set the queue mgmt ops Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 15/22] eth: bnxt: store the rx buf size per queue Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 22:33   ` Mina Almasry
2025-08-01 23:20     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 16/22] eth: bnxt: adjust the fill level of agg queues with larger buffers Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 17/22] netdev: add support for setting rx-buf-len per queue Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 23:10   ` Mina Almasry
2025-08-01 23:37     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 18/22] net: wipe the setting of deactived queues Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 19/22] eth: bnxt: use queue op config validate Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 20/22] eth: bnxt: support per queue configuration of rx-buf-len Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 21/22] net: parametrise mp open with a queue config Pavel Begunkov
2025-08-02  0:10   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-08-04 12:50     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-08-05 22:43       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-08-06  0:05       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-08-06 16:48       ` Mina Almasry
2025-08-06 18:11         ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-08-06 18:30           ` Mina Almasry
2025-08-06 22:05             ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-28 11:04 ` [RFC v1 22/22] io_uring/zcrx: implement large rx buffer support Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 17:13 ` [RFC v1 00/22] Large rx buffer support for zcrx Stanislav Fomichev
2025-07-28 18:18   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 20:21     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-07-28 21:28       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 22:06         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-07-28 22:44           ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-29 16:33             ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-07-30 14:16               ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-30 15:50                 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-07-31 19:34                   ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-31 19:57                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-31 20:05                       ` Mina Almasry
2025-08-01  9:48                         ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-08-01  9:58                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 23:22           ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-29 16:41             ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-07-29 17:01               ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-28 18:54 ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-28 19:42   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-28 20:23     ` Mina Almasry
2025-07-28 20:57       ` Pavel Begunkov

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