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From: Mina Almasry <[email protected]>
To: David Wei <[email protected]>
Cc: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
	[email protected],  [email protected],
	Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, Jakub Kicinski <[email protected]>,
	 Paolo Abeni <[email protected]>,
	"David S. Miller" <[email protected]>,
	 Eric Dumazet <[email protected]>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]>,
	David Ahern <[email protected]>,
	 Stanislav Fomichev <[email protected]>,
	Joe Damato <[email protected]>,
	 Pedro Tammela <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 04/15] net: prepare for non devmem TCP memory providers
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:43:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHS8izMat6eN9b-anHOqkrkmfTpBQ6hn3rj2FqeKj=FLVhcTmw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 11:01 AM David Wei <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 2024-11-04 05:20, Mina Almasry wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 10:41 AM Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> ...
> >>>> diff --git a/net/ipv4/tcp.c b/net/ipv4/tcp.c
> >>>> index e928efc22f80..31e01da61c12 100644
> >>>> --- a/net/ipv4/tcp.c
> >>>> +++ b/net/ipv4/tcp.c
> >>>> @@ -277,6 +277,7 @@
> >>>>   #include <net/ip.h>
> >>>>   #include <net/sock.h>
> >>>>   #include <net/rstreason.h>
> >>>> +#include <net/page_pool/types.h>
> >>>>
> >>>>   #include <linux/uaccess.h>
> >>>>   #include <asm/ioctls.h>
> >>>> @@ -2476,6 +2477,11 @@ static int tcp_recvmsg_dmabuf(struct sock *sk, const struct sk_buff *skb,
> >>>>                          }
> >>>>
> >>>>                          niov = skb_frag_net_iov(frag);
> >>>> +                       if (net_is_devmem_page_pool_ops(niov->pp->mp_ops)) {
> >>>> +                               err = -ENODEV;
> >>>> +                               goto out;
> >>>> +                       }
> >>>> +
> >>>
> >>> I think this check needs to go in the caller. Currently the caller
> >>> assumes that if !skb_frags_readable(), then the frag is dma-buf, and
> >>
> >> io_uring originated netmem that are marked unreadable as well
> >> and so will end up in tcp_recvmsg_dmabuf(), then we reject and
> >> fail since they should not be fed to devmem TCP. It should be
> >> fine from correctness perspective.
> >>
> >> We need to check frags, and that's the place where we iterate
> >> frags. Another option is to add a loop in tcp_recvmsg_locked
> >> walking over all frags of an skb and doing the checks, but
> >> that's an unnecessary performance burden to devmem.
> >>
> >
> > Checking each frag in tcp_recvmsg_dmabuf (and the equivalent io_uring
> > function) is not ideal really. Especially when you're dereferencing
> > nio->pp to do the check which IIUC will pull a cache line not normally
> > needed in this code path and may have a performance impact.
>
> This check is needed currently because the curent assumption in core
> netdev code is that !skb_frags_readable() means devmem TCP. Longer term,
> we need to figure out how to distinguish skb frag providers in both code
> and Netlink introspection.
>

Right. In my mind the skb_frags_readable() check can be extended to
tell us whether the entire skb is io_uring or devmem or readable. So
that we don't have to:

1. Do a per-frag check, and
2. pull and keep an entire new cacheline hot to do the check.

> Since your concerns here are primarily around performance rather than
> correctness, I suggest we defer this as a follow up series.
>

OK.

> >
> > We currently have a check in __skb_fill_netmem_desc() that makes sure
> > all frags added to an skb are pages or dmabuf. I think we need to
> > improve it to make sure all frags added to an skb are of the same type
> > (pages, dmabuf, iouring). sending it to skb_copy_datagram_msg or
> > tcp_recvmsg_dmabuf or error.
>
> It should not be possible for drivers to fill in an skb with frags from
> different providers. A provider can only change upon a queue reset.
>

Right, drivers shouldn't fill in an skb with different providers. We
should probably protect the core net from weird driver behavior. We
could assert/force at skb_add_rx_frag_netmem() time that the entire
skb has frags of the same type. Then we only need to check
skb->frags[0] once to determine the type of the entire skb.

But as you mention this is a performance optimization. Probably OK to
punt this to a later iteration. But to me the changes are
straightforward enough that it may have been good to carry them in the
first iteration anyway. But OK to leave this out.

--
Thanks,
Mina

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-15  0:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-29 23:05 [PATCH v7 00/15] io_uring zero copy rx David Wei
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 01/15] net: prefix devmem specific helpers David Wei
2024-11-01 14:57   ` Mina Almasry
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 02/15] net: generalise net_iov chunk owners David Wei
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 03/15] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers David Wei
2024-11-05 16:28   ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-11-06  1:08     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 04/15] net: prepare for non devmem TCP memory providers David Wei
2024-11-01 17:09   ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-01 17:41     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-04 20:20       ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-04 21:24         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-11 19:01         ` David Wei
2024-11-15  0:43           ` Mina Almasry [this message]
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 05/15] net: page_pool: add ->scrub mem provider callback David Wei
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 06/15] net: page pool: add helper creating area from pages David Wei
2024-11-01 17:33   ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-01 18:16     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-05 23:34       ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-06  0:50         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 07/15] net: page_pool: introduce page_pool_mp_return_in_cache David Wei
2024-11-01 20:05   ` Mina Almasry
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 08/15] net: add helper executing custom callback from napi David Wei
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 09/15] io_uring/zcrx: add interface queue and refill queue David Wei
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 10/15] io_uring/zcrx: add io_zcrx_area David Wei
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 11/15] io_uring/zcrx: implement zerocopy receive pp memory provider David Wei
2024-11-01 20:06   ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-01 21:09     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-03 21:52       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-04 19:54       ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-04 21:14         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-04 21:53           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-11 21:15         ` David Wei
2024-11-14 20:56           ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-15 23:14             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 12/15] io_uring/zcrx: add io_recvzc request David Wei
2024-11-01 20:11   ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-01 21:17     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-05 23:09       ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-11 22:02         ` David Wei
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 13/15] io_uring/zcrx: set pp memory provider for an rx queue David Wei
2024-11-01 20:16   ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-01 20:35     ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-01 21:12       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 14/15] io_uring/zcrx: add copy fallback David Wei
2024-10-29 23:05 ` [PATCH v7 15/15] io_uring/zcrx: throttle receive requests David Wei

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