From: Mina Almasry <[email protected]>
To: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <[email protected]>, David Wei <[email protected]>,
[email protected], [email protected],
Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, Paolo Abeni <[email protected]>,
"David S. Miller" <[email protected]>,
Eric Dumazet <[email protected]>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]>,
David Ahern <[email protected]>,
Stanislav Fomichev <[email protected]>,
Joe Damato <[email protected]>,
Pedro Tammela <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v9 08/20] net: expose page_pool_{set,clear}_pp_info
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 14:17:49 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHS8izOb59+Z4phe=nJNVOTjOy2HByuh4N-RBgJd5dvhLC9F0A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 8:20 AM Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 12/21/24 02:23, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 01:07:44 +0000 Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> >>>> Memory providers need to set page pool to its net_iovs on allocation, so
> >>>> expose page_pool_{set,clear}_pp_info to providers outside net/.
> >>>
> >>> I'd really rather not expose such low level functions in a header
> >>> included by every single user of the page pool API.
> >>
> >> Are you fine if it's exposed in a new header file?
> >
> > I guess.
> >
> > I'm uncomfortable with the "outside net/" phrasing of the commit
> > message. Nothing outside net should used this stuff. Next we'll have
> > a four letter subsystem abusing it and claiming that it's in a header
> > so it's a public.
>
> By net/ I purely meant the folder, even though it also dictates
> the available API. io_uring is outside, having some glue API
> between them is the only way I can think of, even if it looks
> different from the current series.
>
> Since there are strong opinions would make sense to shove it into
> a new file and name helpers more appropriately, like net_mp_*.
>
I guess I'm a bit sorry here because I think I suggested this
approach. I think the root of the issue is that the io_uring memory
provider (and future mps) need to set_pp_info/clear_pp_info the
netmems. dmabuf mp has no issue because it's defined under net/core so
it can easily include net/core/page_pool_priv.h.
I guess more options I see here are:
1. move the io_uring mp to somewhere under net/core. Moving only the
mp should be sufficient here I think.
2. Do some mp refactor such that the mp gives the page_pool the
netmems but the page_pool is responsible for
set_pp_info/clear_pp_info.
3. Revert back to earlier versions of the code where page_pool.c
exposed a helper that did all the memory processing. I had pushed back
against that version of the code because the helper seemed like
io_uring mp specific code masquerading as a generic helper that wasn't
very reusable :shrug:
For what little it's worth I'm having trouble imagining how
set_pp_info/clear_pp_info can be abused if exposed, so this approach
is fine by me, but I'm probably missing something if there is huge
concern about this.
--
Thanks,
Mina
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-06 22:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-18 0:37 [PATCH RESEND net-next v9 00/21] io_uring zero copy rx David Wei
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 01/20] net: page_pool: don't cast mp param to devmem David Wei
2024-12-20 22:04 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-01-06 20:45 ` Mina Almasry
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 02/20] net: prefix devmem specific helpers David Wei
2024-12-20 22:05 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 03/20] net: generalise net_iov chunk owners David Wei
2024-12-20 22:14 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-21 0:50 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-21 2:17 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-01-02 15:52 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-01-06 21:05 ` Mina Almasry
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 04/20] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers David Wei
2025-01-02 15:54 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 05/20] net: page_pool: add mp op for netlink reporting David Wei
2024-12-20 22:16 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-01-06 23:21 ` David Wei
2025-01-06 21:24 ` Mina Almasry
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 06/20] net: page_pool: add a mp hook to unregister_netdevice* David Wei
2024-12-20 22:18 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-01-06 21:44 ` Mina Almasry
2025-01-06 23:34 ` David Wei
2025-01-06 23:39 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 07/20] net: prepare for non devmem TCP memory providers David Wei
2024-12-20 22:18 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 08/20] net: expose page_pool_{set,clear}_pp_info David Wei
2024-12-20 22:31 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-21 1:07 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-21 2:23 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-01-02 16:21 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-01-06 22:17 ` Mina Almasry [this message]
2025-01-06 23:48 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 09/20] net: page_pool: introduce page_pool_mp_return_in_cache David Wei
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 10/20] io_uring/zcrx: add interface queue and refill queue David Wei
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 11/20] io_uring/zcrx: add io_zcrx_area David Wei
2025-01-06 22:46 ` Mina Almasry
2025-01-07 0:04 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 12/20] io_uring/zcrx: grab a net device David Wei
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 13/20] net: page pool: export page_pool_set_dma_addr_netmem() David Wei
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 14/20] io_uring/zcrx: dma-map area for the device David Wei
2024-12-20 22:38 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-21 1:04 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 15/20] io_uring/zcrx: add io_recvzc request David Wei
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 16/20] io_uring/zcrx: set pp memory provider for an rx queue David Wei
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 17/20] io_uring/zcrx: throttle receive requests David Wei
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 18/20] io_uring/zcrx: add copy fallback David Wei
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 19/20] net: add documentation for io_uring zcrx David Wei
2024-12-18 0:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 20/20] io_uring/zcrx: add selftest David Wei
2024-12-18 14:40 ` [PATCH RESEND net-next v9 00/21] io_uring zero copy rx Jens Axboe
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