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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,  brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz,
	paul@paul-moore.com, axboe@kernel.dk,  audit@vger.kernel.org,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 10/13] get rid of audit_reusename()
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2025 15:07:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wghq+wJrgrDy=-S5TmVNkaJS5RWsQ3kFfCCwv0juoKG4w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgbn+6pGaPw1k6LsMyaPQqz4PxOqF_kN+drQvNudF_1XA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 at 14:44, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> And again: that patch will slow things down [..]

Having done a profile just to see, the regular allocation path
(getname_flags -> kmem_cache_alloc_noprof) certainly shows up.

But on that test set (kernel build), I never hit the 128-byte limit,
and interestingly putname() shows up a tiny bit more than
getname_flags().

At least one reason seems to be that the

        if (refcnt != 1) {

thing in putname() is mispredicted, and without the auditing code, the
"refcnt == 1" case is obviously the common case.

Anyway. Not a great test, and this is all the "good behavior", and all
the *real* costs in that particular path are in strncpy_from_user(),
kmem_cache_free() and kmem_cache_alloc_noprof().

And yeah, STAC/CLAC is expensive on my old Zen 2 machine, as are the
cmpxchg16b in the slab alloc/free paths.

And in the end, the actual path walking is more expensive than all of
this, as is selinux_inode_permission(). So the actual filename copying
isn't *really* all that noticeable - you have to look for it.

              Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-09 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-09  6:37 [RFC][PATCH 00/13] io_uring, struct filename and audit Al Viro
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/13] do_faccessat(): import pathname only once Al Viro
2025-11-13 10:11   ` Jan Kara
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/13] do_fchmodat(): " Al Viro
2025-11-13 10:12   ` Jan Kara
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/13] do_fchownat(): " Al Viro
2025-11-13 10:13   ` Jan Kara
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/13] do_utimes_path(): " Al Viro
2025-11-13 10:15   ` Jan Kara
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/13] chdir(2): " Al Viro
2025-11-13 10:16   ` Jan Kara
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/13] chroot(2): " Al Viro
2025-11-13 10:18   ` Jan Kara
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/13] user_statfs(): " Al Viro
2025-11-13 10:18   ` Jan Kara
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/13] do_sys_truncate(): " Al Viro
2025-11-13 10:18   ` Jan Kara
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/13] do_readlinkat(): " Al Viro
2025-11-13 10:20   ` Jan Kara
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/13] get rid of audit_reusename() Al Viro
2025-11-09 19:18   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-09 19:55     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-11-09 20:22       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-09 22:18         ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-11-09 22:29           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-09 22:33             ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-11-09 22:39               ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-11-09 22:41               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-09 22:44                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-09 23:07                   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2025-11-09 22:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-10  5:17       ` Al Viro
2025-11-10 16:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-10 19:58           ` Al Viro
2025-11-10 20:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-11  1:16               ` Al Viro
2025-11-12  9:26           ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-10  6:05       ` Al Viro
2025-11-10  6:36       ` Al Viro
2025-11-10 16:50         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-10 23:13   ` Paul Moore
2025-11-11  0:23     ` Paul Moore
2025-11-13 10:29   ` Jan Kara
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/13] allow incomplete imports of filenames Al Viro
2025-11-11  0:45   ` Paul Moore
2025-11-11 14:41   ` Jens Axboe
2025-11-19  1:12     ` Al Viro
2025-11-19  1:14       ` Al Viro
2025-11-19  5:41         ` Al Viro
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/13] fs: touch up predicts in putname() Al Viro
2025-11-09  6:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/13] struct filename ->refcnt doesn't need to be atomic Al Viro

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