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[209.85.218.43]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-b04189de5b5sm1426968066b.10.2025.09.05.12.21.56 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Sep 2025 12:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-f43.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-b0472bd218bso444690866b.1 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2025 12:21:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXa3bQdoNdtET8uxlKDPvtNAbcysAzrFS1PH4jn795ZOB4S04lq8c9fT7BW9TE+ByVvb+xPHZKk3w==@vger.kernel.org X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:c27:b0:afe:63ec:6938 with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-b01d8a308b8mr2375796766b.7.1757100116274; Fri, 05 Sep 2025 12:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: io-uring@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9ef87524-d15c-4b2c-9f86-00417dad9c48@kernel.dk> In-Reply-To: From: Linus Torvalds Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:21:39 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXygnYtRIH9nr5tXEV1QvaMdVOZ264tcotmz50PfCGumA8novTsiKdvSe8c Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] io_uring fix for 6.17-rc5 To: Jens Axboe Cc: Caleb Sander Mateos , io-uring , Konstantin Ryabitsev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, 5 Sept 2025 at 12:04, Jens Axboe wrote: > > What is the hurt here, really, other than you being disappointed there's > nothing extra in the link? And just to clarify: the hurt is real. It's not just the disappointment. It's the wasted effort of following a link and having to then realize that there's nothing useful there. Those links *literally* double the effort for me when I try to be careful about patches. So the "what's the hurt here" question is WRONG. The cost is real. The cost is something I've complained about before. I'm tired of having to complain about this, and I'm really really tired of wasting my time on links that people have added with absolutely zero effort and no thinking to back them up. Yes, it's literally free to you to add this cost. No, *YOU* don't see the cost, and you think it is helpful. It's not. It's the opposite of helpful. So I want commit messages to be relevant and explain what is going on, and I want them to NOT WASTE MY TIME. And I also don't want to ignore links that are actually *useful* and give background information. Is that really too much to ask for? Linus