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From: Linus Torvalds <[email protected]>
To: Thomas Gleixner <[email protected]>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <[email protected]>, Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	Stefan Metzmacher <[email protected]>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <[email protected]>,
	io-uring <[email protected]>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] io_thread/x86: don't reset 'cs', 'ss', 'ds' and 'es' registers for io_threads
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 16:19:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wj+njBWpgFqueHMVk1U8-APxZsgRsrOvhybcBEjspzGSg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wi4Dyg_Z70J_hJbtFLPQDG+Zx3dP2jB5QrOdZC6W6j4Gw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 4:16 PM Linus Torvalds
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> These days they really are fully regular user threads, they just don't
> return to user space because they continue to do the IO work that they
> were created for.

IOW, you should think of them as "io_uring does an interface clone()
to generate an async thread, it does the work and then exits".

Now, that's the conceptual thing - in reality one thread can do
multiple async things - but it's the mental image you should have.

Don't think of them as kernel threads. Yes, that's how it started, but
that really ended up being very very painful indeed.

            Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-03 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <[email protected]>
2021-05-03 16:05 ` [PATCH] io_thread/x86: don't reset 'cs', 'ss', 'ds' and 'es' registers for io_threads Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 19:14   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-03 20:15     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 20:21       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 20:37       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-03 21:26         ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-03 21:49           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 22:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-03 22:56               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-03 23:15                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 23:16                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-03 23:19                   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2021-05-03 23:27                   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2021-05-03 23:48                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-04  2:50                       ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-04 11:39                         ` Stefan Metzmacher
2021-05-04 15:53                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-12  4:24                         ` Olivier Langlois
2021-05-12 17:44                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-12 20:55                             ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-20  4:13                               ` Olivier Langlois
2021-05-21  7:31                                 ` Olivier Langlois
2021-05-25 19:39                                   ` Olivier Langlois
2021-05-25 19:45                                     ` Olivier Langlois
2021-05-25 19:52                                     ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-25 20:23                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-04  8:22                       ` David Laight
2021-05-04  0:01                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-04  8:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-04 15:35       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-05-04 15:55         ` Simon Marchi
2021-05-05 11:29           ` Stefan Metzmacher
2021-05-05 21:59             ` Simon Marchi
2021-05-05 22:11               ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-05 23:12                 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-05-05 23:22                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-06  1:04                 ` Simon Marchi
2021-05-06 15:11                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-06  9:47                 ` David Laight
2021-05-06  9:53                   ` David Laight
2021-05-05 22:21               ` Stefan Metzmacher
2021-05-05 23:15                 ` Simon Marchi
2021-04-11 15:27 Stefan Metzmacher
2021-04-14 21:28 ` Stefan Metzmacher

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