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From: Joanne Koong <[email protected]>
To: Bernd Schubert <[email protected]>
Cc: Bernd Schubert <[email protected]>,
	Miklos Szeredi <[email protected]>, Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	 Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
	[email protected],  [email protected],
	Josef Bacik <[email protected]>,
	 Amir Goldstein <[email protected]>,
	Ming Lei <[email protected]>, David Wei <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 10/17] fuse: Add io-uring sqe commit and fetch support
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 17:37:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJnrk1ZchvBpaith-ALN2jG=SQB1YELvdG-4cVJZR5uB3domtQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 4:55 PM Bernd Schubert <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 1/22/25 01:49, Bernd Schubert wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 1/22/25 01:45, Joanne Koong wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 4:18 PM Bernd Schubert <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>> +       err = fuse_ring_ent_set_commit(ring_ent);
> >>>>>>> +       if (err != 0) {
> >>>>>>> +               pr_info_ratelimited("qid=%d commit_id %llu state %d",
> >>>>>>> +                                   queue->qid, commit_id, ring_ent->state);
> >>>>>>> +               spin_unlock(&queue->lock);
> >>>>>>> +               return err;
> >>>>>>> +       }
> >>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>> +       ring_ent->cmd = cmd;
> >>>>>>> +       spin_unlock(&queue->lock);
> >>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>> +       /* without the queue lock, as other locks are taken */
> >>>>>>> +       fuse_uring_commit(ring_ent, issue_flags);
> >>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>> +       /*
> >>>>>>> +        * Fetching the next request is absolutely required as queued
> >>>>>>> +        * fuse requests would otherwise not get processed - committing
> >>>>>>> +        * and fetching is done in one step vs legacy fuse, which has separated
> >>>>>>> +        * read (fetch request) and write (commit result).
> >>>>>>> +        */
> >>>>>>> +       fuse_uring_next_fuse_req(ring_ent, queue, issue_flags);
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If there's no request ready to read next, then no request will be
> >>>>>> fetched and this will return. However, as I understand it, once the
> >>>>>> uring is registered, userspace should only be interacting with the
> >>>>>> uring via FUSE_IO_URING_CMD_COMMIT_AND_FETCH. However for the case
> >>>>>> where no request was ready to read, it seems like userspace would have
> >>>>>> nothing to commit when it wants to fetch the next request?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We have
> >>>>>
> >>>>> FUSE_IO_URING_CMD_REGISTER
> >>>>> FUSE_IO_URING_CMD_COMMIT_AND_FETCH
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> After _CMD_REGISTER the corresponding ring-entry is ready to get fuse
> >>>>> requests and waiting. After it gets a request assigned and handles it
> >>>>> by fuse server the _COMMIT_AND_FETCH scheme applies. Did you possibly
> >>>>> miss that _CMD_REGISTER will already have it waiting?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry for the late reply. After _CMD_REGISTER and _COMMIT_AND_FETCH,
> >>>> it seems possible that there is no fuse request waiting until a later
> >>>> time? This is the scenario I'm envisioning:
> >>>> a) uring registers successfully and fetches request through _CMD_REGISTER
> >>>> b) server replies to request and fetches new request through _COMMIT_AND_FETCH
> >>>> c) server replies to request, tries to fetch new request but no
> >>>> request is ready, through _COMMIT_AND_FETCH
> >>>>
> >>>> maybe I'm missing something in my reading of the code, but how will
> >>>> the server then fetch the next request once the request is ready? It
> >>>> will have to commit something in order to fetch it since there's only
> >>>> _COMMIT_AND_FETCH which requires a commit, no?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> The right name would be '_COMMIT_AND_FETCH_OR_WAIT'. Please see
> >>> fuse_uring_next_fuse_req().
> >>>
> >>> retry:
> >>>         spin_lock(&queue->lock);
> >>>         fuse_uring_ent_avail(ent, queue);           --> entry available
> >>>         has_next = fuse_uring_ent_assign_req(ent);
> >>>         spin_unlock(&queue->lock);
> >>>
> >>>         if (has_next) {
> >>>                 err = fuse_uring_send_next_to_ring(ent, issue_flags);
> >>>                 if (err)
> >>>                         goto retry;
> >>>         }
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If there is no available request, the io-uring cmd stored in ent->cmd is
> >>> just queued/available.
> >>
> >> Could you point me to where the wait happens?  I think that's the part
> >> I'm missing. In my reading of the code, if there's no available
> >> request (eg queue->fuse_req_queue is empty), then I see that has_next
> >> will return false and fuse_uring_next_fuse_req() /
> >> fuse_uring_commit_fetch() returns without having fetched anything.
> >> Where does the "if there is no available request, the io-uring cmd is
> >> just queued/available" happen?
> >>
> >
> > You need to read it the other way around, without "has_next" the
> > avail/queued entry is not removed from the list - it is available
> > whenever a new request comes in. Looks like we either need refactoring
> > or at least a comment.
>
> It also not the current task operation that waits - that happens in
> io-uring with 'io_uring_submit_and_wait' and wait-nr > 0. In fuse is is
> really just _not_ running io_uring_cmd_done() that make ent->cmd to be
> available.

Oh I see, the io_uring_cmd_done handles it internally. It's the
.send_req = fuse_uring_queue_fuse_req -> fuse_uring_send_req_in_task()
-> io_uring_cmd_done() that gets triggered and signals to userspace
that a fetch is ready when a new request is available later on. It
makes sense to me now, thanks.

>
> Does it help?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bernd

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-22  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-07  0:25 [PATCH v9 00/17] fuse: fuse-over-io-uring Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 01/17] fuse: rename to fuse_dev_end_requests and make non-static Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 02/17] fuse: Move fuse_get_dev to header file Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 03/17] fuse: Move request bits Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 04/17] fuse: Add fuse-io-uring design documentation Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 05/17] fuse: make args->in_args[0] to be always the header Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 06/17] fuse: {io-uring} Handle SQEs - register commands Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  9:56   ` Luis Henriques
2025-01-07 12:07     ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-17 11:06   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-01-19 22:47     ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 07/17] fuse: Make fuse_copy non static Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 08/17] fuse: Add fuse-io-uring handling into fuse_copy Bernd Schubert
2025-01-10 22:18   ` Joanne Koong
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 09/17] fuse: {io-uring} Make hash-list req unique finding functions non-static Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 10/17] fuse: Add io-uring sqe commit and fetch support Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07 14:42   ` Luis Henriques
2025-01-07 15:59     ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07 16:21       ` Luis Henriques
2025-01-13 22:44   ` Joanne Koong
2025-01-20  0:33     ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-22  0:04       ` Joanne Koong
2025-01-22  0:18         ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-22  0:45           ` Joanne Koong
2025-01-22  0:49             ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-22  0:55               ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-22  1:37                 ` Joanne Koong [this message]
2025-01-17 11:18   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-01-17 11:20     ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 11/17] fuse: {io-uring} Handle teardown of ring entries Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07 15:31   ` Luis Henriques
2025-01-17 11:23   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 12/17] fuse: {io-uring} Make fuse_dev_queue_{interrupt,forget} non-static Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 13/17] fuse: Allow to queue fg requests through io-uring Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07 15:54   ` Luis Henriques
2025-01-07 18:59     ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07 21:25       ` Luis Henriques
2025-01-17 11:47   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-01-17 21:52   ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 14/17] fuse: Allow to queue bg " Bernd Schubert
2025-01-17 11:49   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 15/17] fuse: {io-uring} Prevent mount point hang on fuse-server termination Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07 16:14   ` Luis Henriques
2025-01-07 19:03     ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-17 11:52   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 16/17] fuse: block request allocation until io-uring init is complete Bernd Schubert
2025-01-07  0:25 ` [PATCH v9 17/17] fuse: enable fuse-over-io-uring Bernd Schubert
2025-01-17 11:52   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-01-17  9:07 ` [PATCH v9 00/17] fuse: fuse-over-io-uring Miklos Szeredi
2025-01-17  9:12   ` Bernd Schubert
2025-01-17 12:01     ` Pavel Begunkov

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