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From: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
To: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@suse.de>
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, axboe@kernel.dk, bschubert@ddn.com,
	 asml.silence@gmail.com, io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
	csander@purestorage.com,  xiaobing.li@samsung.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/25] io_uring/kbuf: add buffer ring pinning/unpinning
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2026 09:57:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJnrk1aAJmsK6Z0=F3n65pr0idGzDXFLEXXZDHOocy9ktnDZWQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ikdnzwgo.fsf@mailhost.krisman.be>

On Tue, Dec 30, 2025 at 9:54 AM Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@suse.de> wrote:
>
> Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 1:07 PM Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > +int io_kbuf_ring_pin(struct io_kiocb *req, unsigned buf_group,
> >> > +                  unsigned issue_flags, struct io_buffer_list **bl)
> >> > +{
> >> > +     struct io_buffer_list *buffer_list;
> >> > +     struct io_ring_ctx *ctx = req->ctx;
> >> > +     int ret = -EINVAL;
> >> > +
> >> > +     io_ring_submit_lock(ctx, issue_flags);
> >> > +
> >> > +     buffer_list = io_buffer_get_list(ctx, buf_group);
> >> > +     if (likely(buffer_list) && likely(buffer_list->flags & IOBL_BUF_RING)) {
> >>
> >> FWIW, the likely construct is unnecessary here. At least, it should
> >> encompass the entire expression:
> >>
> >>     if (likely(buffer_list && buffer_list->flags & IOBL_BUF_RING))
> >>
> >> But you can just drop it.
> >
> > I see, thanks. Could you explain when likelys/unlikelys should be used
> > vs not? It's unclear to me when they need to be included vs can be
> > dropped. I see some other io-uring code use likely() for similar-ish
> > logic, but is the idea that it's unnecessary because the compiler
> > already infers it?
>
> likely/unlikely help the compiler decide whether it should reverse the
> jump to optimize branch prediction and code spacial locality for icache.
> The compiler is usually great in figuring it out by itself and, in
> general, these should only be used after profilings shows the specific
> jump is problematic, or when you know the jump will or will not be taken
> almost every time.  The compiler decision depends on heuristics (which I
> guess considers the leg size and favors the if leg), but it usually gets
> it right.
>
> One obvious case where *unlikely* is useful is to handle error paths.
> The logic behind it is that the error path is obviously not the
> hot-path, so a branch misprediction or a cache miss in that path is
> just fine.
>
> The usage of likely is more rare, and some usages are just cargo-cult.
> Here you could use it, as the hot path is definitely the if leg.  But
> if you look at the generated code, it most likely doesn't make any
> difference, because gcc is smart enough to handle it.
>
> A problem arises when likely/unlikely are used improperly, or the code
> changes and the frequency when each leg is taken changes.  Now the
> likely/unlikely is introducing mispredictions the compiler could have
> avoided and harming performance.
>
> I wasn't gonna comment in the review, since the likely() seems harmless
> in your patch.  But what got my attention was that each separate
> expression was under a single likely() expression.  I don't think that
> makes much sense, since the hint is useful for the placement of the
> if/else legs, it should encompass the whole condition.  That's how it is
> used almost anywhere else in the kernel (there are a few occurrences
> drivers/scsi/ that also look a bit fishy, IMO).

That makes sense. Thanks for the elaboration.
>
> --
> Gabriel Krisman Bertazi

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-02 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-23  0:34 [PATCH v3 00/25] fuse/io-uring: add kernel-managed buffer rings and zero-copy Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:34 ` [PATCH v3 01/25] io_uring/kbuf: refactor io_buf_pbuf_register() logic into generic helpers Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:34 ` [PATCH v3 02/25] io_uring/kbuf: rename io_unregister_pbuf_ring() to io_unregister_buf_ring() Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 03/25] io_uring/kbuf: add support for kernel-managed buffer rings Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 04/25] io_uring/kbuf: add mmap " Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 05/25] io_uring/kbuf: support kernel-managed buffer rings in buffer selection Joanne Koong
2026-01-03 22:45   ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09  0:56     ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 06/25] io_uring/kbuf: add buffer ring pinning/unpinning Joanne Koong
2025-12-29 21:07   ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2025-12-30  1:27     ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-30 17:54       ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2026-01-02 17:57         ` Joanne Koong [this message]
2026-01-08 18:40         ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-08 19:18   ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09  1:04     ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 07/25] io_uring/kbuf: add recycling for kernel managed buffer rings Joanne Koong
2025-12-29 22:00   ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2025-12-29 22:20     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2025-12-30  1:15       ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-05 18:49         ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2026-01-08 20:37   ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09  1:07     ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 08/25] io_uring: add io_uring_cmd_fixed_index_get() and io_uring_cmd_fixed_index_put() Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 19:02   ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-08 20:44     ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09  0:55       ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-09  1:08         ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 09/25] io_uring/kbuf: add io_uring_cmd_is_kmbuf_ring() Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 10/25] io_uring/kbuf: export io_ring_buffer_select() Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 20:34   ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09  0:38     ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-09  2:43       ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 11/25] io_uring/kbuf: return buffer id in buffer selection Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 12/25] io_uring/cmd: set selected buffer index in __io_uring_cmd_done() Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 13/25] fuse: refactor io-uring logic for getting next fuse request Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 14/25] fuse: refactor io-uring header copying to ring Joanne Koong
2026-01-11 16:03   ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-16 22:33     ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-27 23:06       ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 15/25] fuse: refactor io-uring header copying from ring Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 16/25] fuse: use enum types for header copying Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 17/25] fuse: refactor setting up copy state for payload copying Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 18/25] fuse: support buffer copying for kernel addresses Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 19/25] fuse: add io-uring kernel-managed buffer ring Joanne Koong
2026-02-03 23:58   ` Bernd Schubert
2026-02-05 20:24     ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-05 20:49       ` Bernd Schubert
2026-02-05 21:29         ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-05 21:48           ` Bernd Schubert
2026-02-05 22:19             ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 20/25] io_uring/rsrc: rename io_buffer_register_bvec()/io_buffer_unregister_bvec() Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 20:52   ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 21/25] io_uring/rsrc: split io_buffer_register_request() logic Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 21:04   ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09  0:18     ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 22/25] io_uring/rsrc: Allow buffer release callback to be optional Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 23/25] io_uring/rsrc: add io_buffer_register_bvec() Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 21:09   ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09  0:10     ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 24/25] fuse: add zero-copy over io-uring Joanne Koong
2026-01-08 21:15   ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2026-01-09  0:07     ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23  0:35 ` [PATCH v3 25/25] docs: fuse: add io-uring bufring and zero-copy documentation Joanne Koong

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