From: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
To: miklos@szeredi.hu, axboe@kernel.dk
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, bschubert@ddn.com,
asml.silence@gmail.com, io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
xiaobing.li@samsung.com, csander@purestorage.com,
kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] fuse: support io-uring registered buffers
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 15:59:52 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJnrk1bG7fAX8MfwJL_D2jzMNv5Rj9=1cgQvVpqC1=mGaeAwOg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251027222808.2332692-1-joannelkoong@gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 3:29 PM Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This patchset adds fuse support for io-uring registered buffers.
> Daemons may register buffers ahead of time, which will eliminate the overhead
> of pinning/unpinning user pages and translating virtual addresses for every
> server-kernel interaction.
Registered buffers helps with the I/O overhead, but there's still
significant memory waste within each buffer. Each entry in a queue
allocates a dedicated buffer of at least 1 MB (for some performant
servers like passthrough_hp, each entry's buffer is 4 MB, which adds
up (eg with the libfuse default queue depth of 8 on a 64-core machine,
that's 2 GB of buffers per fuse connection)) but most of this space
goes unused. In practice, entries on a queue will rarely consume their
full buffer capacity simultaneously.
Instead of using registered buffers, I think it's better if we go with
a kernel managed ring buffer. It'll have the same advantages in
reducing I/O overhead as registered buffers but also give us
optionality later on to support IORING_CQE_F_BUF_MORE for incremental
buffer consumption or add multiple different-sized ring buffer pools
(eg for large payloads vs small payloads, which is also something we
have to differentiate between for zero-copy), whereas we would have no
way of supporting that with registered buffers.
For v3, I'm going to go this direction.
Thanks,
Joanne
>
> The main logic for fuse registered buffers is in the last patch (patch 8/8).
> Patch 1/8 adds an io_uring api for fetching the registered buffer and patches
> (2-7)/8 refactors the fuse io_uring code, which additionally will make adding
> in the logic for registered buffers neater.
>
> The libfuse changes can be found in this branch:
> https://github.com/joannekoong/libfuse/tree/registered_buffers. The libfuse
> implementation first tries registered buffers during registration and if this
> fails, will retry with non-registered buffers. This prevents having to add a
> new init flag (but does have the downside of printing dmesg errors for the
> failed registrations when trying the registered buffers). If using registered
> buffers and the daemon for whatever reason unregisters the buffers midway
> through, then this will sever server-kernel communication. Libfuse will never
> do this. Libfuse will only unregister the buffers when the entire session is
> being destroyed.
>
> Benchmarks will be run and posted.
>
> Thanks,
> Joanne
>
> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20251022202021.3649586-1-joannelkoong@gmail.com/
> v1 -> v2:
> * Add io_uring_cmd_import_fixed_full() patch
> * Construct iter using io_uring_cmd_import_fixed_full() per cmd instead of recyling
> iters.
> * Kmap the header instead of using bvec iter for iterating/copying. This makes
> the code easier to read.
>
> Joanne Koong (8):
> io_uring/uring_cmd: add io_uring_cmd_import_fixed_full()
> fuse: refactor io-uring logic for getting next fuse request
> fuse: refactor io-uring header copying to ring
> fuse: refactor io-uring header copying from ring
> fuse: use enum types for header copying
> fuse: add user_ prefix to userspace headers and payload fields
> fuse: refactor setting up copy state for payload copying
> fuse: support io-uring registered buffers
>
> fs/fuse/dev_uring.c | 366 +++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> fs/fuse/dev_uring_i.h | 27 ++-
> include/linux/io_uring/cmd.h | 3 +
> io_uring/rsrc.c | 14 ++
> io_uring/rsrc.h | 2 +
> io_uring/uring_cmd.c | 13 ++
> 6 files changed, 316 insertions(+), 109 deletions(-)
>
> --
> 2.47.3
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-15 0:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-27 22:27 [PATCH v2 0/8] fuse: support io-uring registered buffers Joanne Koong
2025-10-27 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] io_uring/uring_cmd: add io_uring_cmd_import_fixed_full() Joanne Koong
2025-10-28 1:28 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-10-29 14:01 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-10-29 18:37 ` Joanne Koong
2025-10-29 19:59 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-10-30 17:42 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-10-30 18:06 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-10-30 22:23 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-10-30 23:50 ` Joanne Koong
2025-10-31 10:27 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-10-31 21:19 ` Joanne Koong
2025-10-30 23:13 ` Joanne Koong
2025-10-27 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] fuse: refactor io-uring logic for getting next fuse request Joanne Koong
2025-10-30 23:07 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-10-27 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] fuse: refactor io-uring header copying to ring Joanne Koong
2025-10-30 23:15 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-10-30 23:52 ` Joanne Koong
2025-10-27 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] fuse: refactor io-uring header copying from ring Joanne Koong
2025-10-27 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] fuse: use enum types for header copying Joanne Koong
2025-11-05 23:01 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-11-06 21:59 ` Joanne Koong
2025-11-07 22:11 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-10-27 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] fuse: add user_ prefix to userspace headers and payload fields Joanne Koong
2025-10-28 1:32 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-10-28 23:56 ` Joanne Koong
2025-11-06 13:35 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-10-27 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] fuse: refactor setting up copy state for payload copying Joanne Koong
2025-11-06 16:53 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-11-06 22:01 ` Joanne Koong
2025-10-27 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] fuse: support io-uring registered buffers Joanne Koong
2025-10-28 1:42 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-10-28 23:56 ` Joanne Koong
2025-11-06 19:48 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-11-06 23:09 ` Joanne Koong
2025-11-07 22:16 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-11-07 22:23 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-11-23 20:12 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-11-25 1:13 ` Joanne Koong
2025-11-14 23:59 ` Joanne Koong [this message]
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