From: Andy Lutomirski <[email protected]>
To: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <[email protected]>, Andy Lutomirski <[email protected]>,
Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>, Al Viro <[email protected]>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:51:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrW3rwGsgfLNnu_0JAcL5jvrPVTLTWM3JpbB5P9Hye6Fdw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 9:15 AM Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 21/09/2020 19:10, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> > On 20/09/2020 01:22, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sep 19, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Arnd Bergmann <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 6:21 PM Andy Lutomirski <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:16 AM Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 02:58:22PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> >>>>>> Said that, why not provide a variant that would take an explicit
> >>>>>> "is it compat" argument and use it there? And have the normal
> >>>>>> one pass in_compat_syscall() to that...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That would help to not introduce a regression with this series yes.
> >>>>> But it wouldn't fix existing bugs when io_uring is used to access
> >>>>> read or write methods that use in_compat_syscall(). One example that
> >>>>> I recently ran into is drivers/scsi/sg.c.
> >>>
> >>> Ah, so reading /dev/input/event* would suffer from the same issue,
> >>> and that one would in fact be broken by your patch in the hypothetical
> >>> case that someone tried to use io_uring to read /dev/input/event on x32...
> >>>
> >>> For reference, I checked the socket timestamp handling that has a
> >>> number of corner cases with time32/time64 formats in compat mode,
> >>> but none of those appear to be affected by the problem.
> >>>
> >>>> Aside from the potentially nasty use of per-task variables, one thing
> >>>> I don't like about PF_FORCE_COMPAT is that it's one-way. If we're
> >>>> going to have a generic mechanism for this, shouldn't we allow a full
> >>>> override of the syscall arch instead of just allowing forcing compat
> >>>> so that a compat syscall can do a non-compat operation?
> >>>
> >>> The only reason it's needed here is that the caller is in a kernel
> >>> thread rather than a system call. Are there any possible scenarios
> >>> where one would actually need the opposite?
> >>>
> >>
> >> I can certainly imagine needing to force x32 mode from a kernel thread.
> >>
> >> As for the other direction: what exactly are the desired bitness/arch semantics of io_uring? Is the operation bitness chosen by the io_uring creation or by the io_uring_enter() bitness?
> >
> > It's rather the second one. Even though AFAIR it wasn't discussed
> > specifically, that how it works now (_partially_).
>
> Double checked -- I'm wrong, that's the former one. Most of it is based
> on a flag that was set an creation.
>
Could we get away with making io_uring_enter() return -EINVAL (or
maybe -ENOTTY?) if you try to do it with bitness that doesn't match
the io_uring? And disable SQPOLL in compat mode?
--Andy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-21 23:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-18 12:45 let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:40 ` Al Viro
2020-09-18 13:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:58 ` Al Viro
2020-09-18 15:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19 16:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 21:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-19 21:52 ` Finn Thain
2020-09-19 22:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-21 16:10 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-21 16:13 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-21 23:51 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2020-09-22 0:22 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22 0:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-22 6:30 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22 7:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-22 7:57 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-22 9:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-22 16:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-23 8:01 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-23 13:22 ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:09 ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 22:41 ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 22:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-19 23:24 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 0:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 2:57 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 16:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 18:12 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 13:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 15:02 ` Al Viro
2020-09-19 14:53 ` David Laight
2020-09-18 13:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 15:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 15:55 ` William Kucharski
2020-09-21 16:20 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 16:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 18:07 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 18:41 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 19:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 19:10 ` Al Viro
2020-09-20 19:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-20 19:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-20 20:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-20 21:13 ` David Laight
2020-09-21 16:31 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 21:42 ` Al Viro
2020-09-21 16:26 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-09-20 19:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-21 4:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 2/9] compat.h: fix a spelling error in <linux/compat.h> Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:37 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 3/9] fs: explicitly check for CHECK_IOVEC_ONLY in rw_copy_check_uvector Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-18 13:39 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 4/9] fs: handle the compat case in import_iovec Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 5/9] fs: remove various compat readv/writev helpers Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 6/9] fs: remove the compat readv/writev syscalls Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 7/9] fs: remove compat_sys_vmsplice Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: remove compat_process_vm_{readv,writev} Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-18 13:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-18 12:45 ` [PATCH 9/9] security/keys: remove compat_keyctl_instantiate_key_iov Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-19 14:24 ` let import_iovec deal with compat_iovecs as well David Laight
2020-09-21 4:41 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2020-09-21 11:11 ` David Laight
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