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From: Dmitry Kadashev <[email protected]>
To: Al Viro <[email protected]>
Cc: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	Christian Brauner <[email protected]>,
	Linus Torvalds <[email protected]>,
	linux-fsdevel <[email protected]>,
	io-uring <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/14] namei: prepare do_mkdirat for refactoring
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 13:59:29 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOKbgA79ODk_swv9nsU50ZrRe9Xqv3n9-JOH+H0zyhUF2SYcRw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YPCX5/[email protected]>

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 3:17 AM Al Viro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 05:35:51PM +0700, Dmitry Kadashev wrote:
> > This is just a preparation for the move of the main mkdirat logic to a
> > separate function to make the logic easier to follow.  This change
> > contains the flow changes so that the actual change to move the main
> > logic to a separate function does no change the flow at all.
> >
> > Just like the similar patches for rmdir and unlink a few commits before,
> > there two changes here:
> >
> > 1. Previously on filename_create() error the function used to exit
> > immediately, and now it will check the return code to see if ESTALE
> > retry is appropriate. The filename_create() does its own retries on
> > ESTALE (at least via filename_parentat() used inside), but this extra
> > check should be completely fine.
>
> This is the wrong way to go.  Really.  Look at it that way - LOOKUP_REVAL
> is the final stage of escalation; if we had to go there, there's no
> point being optimistic about the last dcache lookup, nevermind trying
> to retry the parent pathwalk if we fail with -ESTALE doing it.
>
> I'm not saying that it's something worth optimizing for; the problem
> is different - the logics makes no sense whatsoever that way.  It's
> a matter of reader's cycles wasted on "what the fuck are we trying
> to do here?", not the CPU cycles wasted on execution.
>
> While we are at it, it makes no sense for filename_parentat() and its
> ilk to go for RCU and normal if it's been given LOOKUP_REVAL - I mean,
> look at the sequence of calls in there.  And try to make sense of
> it.  Especially of the "OK, RCU attempt told us to sod off and try normal;
> here, let's call path_parentat() with LOOKUP_REVAL for flags and if it
> says -ESTALE, call it again with exact same arguments" part.
>
> Seriously, look at that from the point of view of somebody who tries
> to make sense of the entire thing

OK, let me try to venture down that "change the way ESTALE retries are
done completely" path. The problem here is I'm not familiar with the
code enough to be sure the conversion is 1-to-1 (i.e. that we can't get
ESTALE from somewhere unexpected), and that retries are open-coded in
quite a few places it seems. Anyway, I'll try and dig in and come back
with either an RFC patch or some questions. Thanks for the feedback, Al.

-- 
Dmitry Kadashev

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-20  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-15 10:35 [PATCH 00/14] namei: clean up retry logic in various do_* functions Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 01/14] namei: prepare do_rmdir for refactoring Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 19:49   ` Al Viro
2021-07-20  6:52     ` Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 02/14] namei: clean up do_rmdir retry logic Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 20:02   ` Al Viro
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 03/14] namei: prepare do_unlinkat for refactoring Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 04/14] namei: clean up do_unlinkat retry logic Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 05/14] namei: prepare do_mkdirat for refactoring Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 20:17   ` Al Viro
2021-07-20  6:59     ` Dmitry Kadashev [this message]
2021-07-20 13:55       ` Al Viro
2021-07-21 10:02         ` Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 06/14] namei: clean up do_mkdirat retry logic Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 07/14] namei: prepare do_mknodat for refactoring Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 08/14] namei: clean up do_mknodat retry logic Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 09/14] namei: prepare do_symlinkat for refactoring Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 10/14] namei: clean up do_symlinkat retry logic Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 11/14] namei: prepare do_linkat for refactoring Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 12/14] namei: clean up do_linkat retry logic Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:35 ` [PATCH 13/14] namei: prepare do_renameat2 for refactoring Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:36 ` [PATCH 14/14] namei: clean up do_renameat2 retry logic Dmitry Kadashev
2021-07-15 10:39 ` [PATCH 00/14] namei: clean up retry logic in various do_* functions Dmitry Kadashev

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