From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2FCC433FE for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 07:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07B461B31 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 07:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231146AbhKSHpJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Nov 2021 02:45:09 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:51438 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230477AbhKSHpI (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Nov 2021 02:45:08 -0500 Received: from out2.migadu.com (out2.migadu.com [IPv6:2001:41d0:2:aacc::]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5314FC061574; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:42:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cmpwn.com; s=key1; t=1637307720; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=oBuVVC/kgOFHq2yevaI0CpADpfOSmZZoX+AnGukEpF8=; b=uity+CJUCct1Lwq62Wamd1z1OodLsIo/ZRbgo0K59Ny+AUG/j2zgw7g3fKEV1GuGIaqhAT W5lIXaJ63mNCp34bPiaztZ2GZTE/GM9GFUnQ2Tf3E1Pfy8PKx3j29o978w7kYkP4B+p9xk 5jdofR73whVGcZ9CNMwDN6wnJrWFWCKYeNBfjNl/MqZZ428/aMuAnWkGcMaXNDGQ4MeDn4 FfnGuzT8dNQl2pHGa0opar+68OJfAVzoX8jruEdx+HRPXrrGSGAfYMIuAIqGet2oKIVLsf Yf7OzNT7J8eklU60lMw9FqmnGONC+CDYSoSn/y/74f7qW2oXOWU9e4jc76csNw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:41:58 +0100 Message-Id: X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. From: "Drew DeVault" To: "Andrew Morton" , "Jens Axboe" Cc: "Johannes Weiner" , "Ammar Faizi" , , , "io_uring Mailing List" , "Pavel Begunkov" , Subject: Re: [PATCH] Increase default MLOCK_LIMIT to 8 MiB References: <20211028080813.15966-1-sir@cmpwn.com> <593aea3b-e4a4-65ce-0eda-cb3885ff81cd@gnuweeb.org> <20211115203530.62ff33fdae14927b48ef6e5f@linux-foundation.org> <20211118135846.26da93737a70d486e68462bf@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20211118135846.26da93737a70d486e68462bf@linux-foundation.org> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: io-uring@vger.kernel.org On Thu Nov 18, 2021 at 10:58 PM CET, Andrew Morton wrote: > Nobody's aiming for perfection. We're discussing aiming for "better". > > What we should have done on day one was to set the default MLOCK_LIMIT > to zero bytes. Then everyone would have infrastructure to tune it from > userspace and we wouldn't ever have this discussion. Setting aside perfection or not, what you're aiming for is about 1000=C3=97 more work. I'm not prepared to do that work. I'm not going to paint this same bikeshed 100 times for each Linux distro we have to convince to adopt a more sophisticated solution.