From: Damien Le Moal <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: Kanchan Joshi <[email protected]>, Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
Kanchan Joshi <[email protected]>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/6] io_uring: add support for zone-append
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 12:20:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CY4PR04MB37518A2859396BCE0EEF5270E7400@CY4PR04MB3751.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: [email protected]
On 2020/08/14 21:04, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 08:27:13AM +0000, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>>
>>> O_APPEND pretty much implies out of order, as there is no way for an
>>> application to know which thread wins the race to write the next chunk.
>>
>> Yes and no. If the application threads do not synchronize their calls to
>> io_submit(), then yes indeed, things can get out of order. But if the
>> application threads are synchronized, then the offset set for each append AIO
>> will be in sequence of submission, so the user will not see its writes
>> completing at different write offsets than this implied offsets.
>
> Nothing gurantees any kind of ordering for two separate io_submit calls.
> The kernel may delay one of them for any reason.
Ah. Yes. The inode locking is at the single aio issuing level, not the io_submit
syscall level... So yes, in the end, the aios offsets and their execution order
can be anything. I see it now. So O_APPEND implying zone append is fine for zonefs.
>
> Now if you are doing two fully synchronous write calls on an
> O_APPEND fd, yes they are serialized. But using Zone Append won't
> change that.
Yep. That zonefs already does.
OK. So I think I will send a writeup of the semantic discussed so far. We also
still need a solution for io_uring interface for the written offset report and
we can implement.
--
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research
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2020-07-24 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] zone-append support in io-uring and aio Kanchan Joshi
[not found] ` <CGME20200724155258epcas5p1a75b926950a18cd1e6c8e7a047e6c589@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] fs: introduce FMODE_ZONE_APPEND and IOCB_ZONE_APPEND Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-24 16:34 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-26 15:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-28 1:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-28 7:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <CGME20200724155324epcas5p18e1d3b4402d1e4a8eca87d0b56a3fa9b@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] fs: change ki_complete interface to support 64bit ret2 Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-26 15:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <CGME20200724155329epcas5p345ba6bad0b8fe18056bb4bcd26c10019@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] uio: return status with iov truncation Kanchan Joshi
[not found] ` <CGME20200724155341epcas5p15bfc55927f2abb60f19784270fe8e377@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] block: add zone append handling for direct I/O path Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-26 15:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <CGME20200724155346epcas5p2cfb383fe9904a45280c6145f4c13e1b4@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] block: enable zone-append for iov_iter of bvec type Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-26 15:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <CGME20200724155350epcas5p3b8f1d59eda7f8fbb38c828f692d42fd6@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2020-07-24 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] io_uring: add support for zone-append Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-24 16:29 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-27 19:16 ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-27 20:34 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-30 16:08 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-30 16:13 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-30 16:26 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-30 17:16 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-30 17:38 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-30 17:51 ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-30 17:54 ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-30 18:25 ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-31 6:42 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-07-31 6:45 ` hch
2020-07-31 6:59 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-07-31 7:58 ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-31 8:14 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-07-31 9:14 ` hch
2020-07-31 9:34 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-07-31 9:41 ` hch
2020-07-31 10:16 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-07-31 12:51 ` hch
2020-07-31 13:08 ` hch
2020-07-31 15:07 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-02 20:47 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-08-05 7:35 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-08-14 8:14 ` hch
2020-08-14 8:27 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-08-14 12:04 ` hch
2020-08-14 12:20 ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2020-09-07 7:01 ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-09-08 15:18 ` hch
2020-09-24 17:19 ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-09-25 2:52 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-09-28 18:58 ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-09-29 1:24 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-09-29 18:49 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-02 20:43 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-07-31 9:38 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-02 20:51 ` Luis Chamberlain
2020-07-31 7:08 ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-07-30 15:57 ` Pavel Begunkov
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