From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Sidong Yang" <sidong.yang@furiosa.ai>,
"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
Cc: "Caleb Sander Mateos" <csander@purestorage.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>, "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
<rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<io-uring@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] rust: io_uring: introduce rust abstraction for io-uring cmd
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 10:34:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DC0B7TRVRFMY.29LDRJOU3WJY2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aJoDTDwkoj50eKBX@sidongui-MacBookPro.local>
On Mon Aug 11, 2025 at 4:50 PM CEST, Sidong Yang wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 09:44:22AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
>> > There is `uring_cmd` callback in `file_operation` at c side. `Pin<&mut IoUringCmd>`
>> > would be create in the callback function. But the callback function could be
>> > called repeatedly with same `io_uring_cmd` instance as far as I know.
>> >
>> > But in c side, there is initialization step `io_uring_cmd_prep()`.
>> > How about fill zero pdu in `io_uring_cmd_prep()`? And we could assign a byte
>> > as flag in pdu for checking initialized also we should provide 31 bytes except
>> > a byte for the flag.
>> >
>>
>> That was a follow-up question of mine. Can´t we enforce zero-initialization
>> in C to get rid of this MaybeUninit? Uninitialized data is just bad in general.
>>
>> Hopefully this can be done as you've described above, but I don't want to over
>> extend my opinion on something I know nothing about.
>
> I need to add a commit that initialize pdu in prep step in next version.
> I'd like to get a comment from io_uring maintainer Jens. Thanks.
>
> If we could initialize (filling zero) in prep step, How about casting issue?
> Driver still needs to cast array to its private struct in unsafe?
We still would have the casting issue.
Can't we do the following:
* Add a new associated type to `MiscDevice` called `IoUringPdu` that
has to implement `Default` and have a size of at most 32 bytes.
* make `IoUringCmd` generic
* make `MiscDevice::uring_cmd` take `Pin<&mut IoUringCmd<Self::IoUringPdu>>`
* initialize the private data to be `IoUringPdu::default()` when we
create the `IoUringCmd` object.
* provide a `fn pdu(&mut self) -> &mut Pdu` on `IoUringPdu<Pdu>`.
Any thoughts? If we don't want to add a new associated type to
`MiscDevice` (because not everyone has to declare the `IoUringCmd`
data), I have a small trait dance that we can do to avoid that:
pub trait IoUringMiscDevice: MiscDevice {
type IoUringPdu: Default; // missing the 32 byte constraint
}
and then in MiscDevice we still add this function:
fn uring_cmd(
_device: <Self::Ptr as ForeignOwnable>::Borrowed<'_>,
_io_uring_cmd: Pin<&mut IoUringCmd<Self::IoUringPdu>>,
_issue_flags: u32,
) -> Result<i32>
where
Self: IoUringMiscDevice,
{
build_error!(VTABLE_DEFAULT_ERROR)
}
It can only be called when the user also implements `IoUringMiscDevice`.
---
Cheers,
Benno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-12 8:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-27 15:03 [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] rust: miscdevice: abstraction for uring-cmd Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] rust: bindings: add io_uring headers in bindings_helper.h Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] rust: io_uring: introduce rust abstraction for io-uring cmd Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 13:48 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 10:52 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-06 12:38 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06 13:38 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-08 6:56 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-08 8:49 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-08 9:43 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-09 10:18 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-09 12:51 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-09 20:22 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-10 13:50 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-10 14:27 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-10 14:46 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-10 20:06 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-11 12:34 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-11 12:44 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-11 14:50 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-12 8:34 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-08-12 12:19 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-12 12:43 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-12 13:56 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-12 13:59 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-12 14:38 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-13 0:54 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-08 13:55 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-08-09 12:53 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-05 3:39 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-05 13:02 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06 9:11 ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] rust: miscdevice: add uring_cmd() for MiscDevice trait Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 14:04 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07 7:46 ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] samples: rust: rust_misc_device: add uring_cmd example Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 14:11 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07 6:30 ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 17:17 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] rust: miscdevice: abstraction for uring-cmd Daniel Almeida
2025-08-01 14:13 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07 6:17 ` Sidong Yang
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