public inbox for [email protected]
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Borislav Petkov <[email protected]>
To: Andy Lutomirski <[email protected]>
Cc: Simon Marchi <[email protected]>,
	Stefan Metzmacher <[email protected]>,
	Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>,
	Linus Torvalds <[email protected]>,
	Thomas Gleixner <[email protected]>,
	Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <[email protected]>,
	io-uring <[email protected]>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <[email protected]>,
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH] io_thread/x86: don't reset 'cs', 'ss', 'ds' and 'es' registers for io_threads
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 01:12:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUF5M+Qw+RfY8subR7nzmpMyFsE3NHSAPoMVWMz6_hr-w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 03:11:18PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Since I'm not holding my breath, please at least keep in mind that
> anything you do here is merely a heuristic, cannot be fully correct,
> and then whenever gdb determines that a thread group or a thread is
> "32-bit", gdb is actually deciding to operate in a degraded mode for
> that task, is not accurately representing the task state, and is at
> risk of crashing, malfunctioning, or crashing the inferior due to its
> incorrect assumptions.  If you have ever attached gdb to QEMU's
> gdbserver and tried to debug the early boot process of a 64-bit Linux
> kernel, you may have encountered this class of bugs.  gdb works very,
> very poorly for this use case.

So we were talking about this with toolchain folks today and they gave
me this example:

Imagine you've stopped the target this way:

	<insn><-- stopped here
	<insn>
	<mode changing insn>
	<insn>
	<insn>
	...

now, if you dump rIP and say, rIP + the 10 following insns at the place
you've stopped it, gdb cannot know that 2 insns further into the stream
a

<mode changing insn>

is coming and it should change the disassembly of the insns after that
<mode changing insn> to the new mode. Unless it goes and inspects all
further instructions and disassembles them and analyzes the flow...

So what you can do is 

(gdb) set arch ...

at the <mode changing insn> to the mode you're changing to.

Dunno, maybe I'm missing something but this sounds like without user
help gdb can only assume things.

Good night and good luck.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-05 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <[email protected]>
2021-05-03 16:05 ` [PATCH] io_thread/x86: don't reset 'cs', 'ss', 'ds' and 'es' registers for io_threads Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 19:14   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-03 20:15     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 20:21       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 20:37       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-03 21:26         ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-03 21:49           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 22:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-03 22:56               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-03 23:15                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 23:16                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-03 23:19                   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-03 23:27                   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2021-05-03 23:48                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-04  2:50                       ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-04 11:39                         ` Stefan Metzmacher
2021-05-04 15:53                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-12  4:24                         ` Olivier Langlois
2021-05-12 17:44                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-12 20:55                             ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-20  4:13                               ` Olivier Langlois
2021-05-21  7:31                                 ` Olivier Langlois
2021-05-25 19:39                                   ` Olivier Langlois
2021-05-25 19:45                                     ` Olivier Langlois
2021-05-25 19:52                                     ` Jens Axboe
2021-05-25 20:23                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-05-04  8:22                       ` David Laight
2021-05-04  0:01                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-04  8:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-04 15:35       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-05-04 15:55         ` Simon Marchi
2021-05-05 11:29           ` Stefan Metzmacher
2021-05-05 21:59             ` Simon Marchi
2021-05-05 22:11               ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-05 23:12                 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2021-05-05 23:22                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-06  1:04                 ` Simon Marchi
2021-05-06 15:11                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-06  9:47                 ` David Laight
2021-05-06  9:53                   ` David Laight
2021-05-05 22:21               ` Stefan Metzmacher
2021-05-05 23:15                 ` Simon Marchi
2021-04-11 15:27 Stefan Metzmacher
2021-04-14 21:28 ` Stefan Metzmacher

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    [email protected] \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox