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From: Matthew Wilcox <[email protected]>
To: Dave Chinner <[email protected]>
Cc: Keith Busch <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	Alexander Viro <[email protected]>,
	Kernel Team <[email protected]>, Keith Busch <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 2/7] file: add ops to dma map bvec
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 02:13:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 10:21:24AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_HAS_DMA
> > +	void *(*dma_map)(struct file *, struct bio_vec *, int);
> > +	void (*dma_unmap)(struct file *, void *);
> > +#endif
> 
> This just smells wrong. Using a block layer specific construct as a
> primary file operation parameter shouts "layering violation" to me.

A bio_vec is also used for networking; it's in disguise as an skb_frag,
but it's there.

> What we really need is a callout that returns the bdevs that the
> struct file is mapped to (one, or many), so the caller can then map
> the memory addresses to the block devices itself. The caller then
> needs to do an {file, offset, len} -> {bdev, sector, count}
> translation so the io_uring code can then use the correct bdev and
> dma mappings for the file offset that the user is doing IO to/from.

I don't even know if what you're proposing is possible.  Consider a
network filesystem which might transparently be moved from one network
interface to another.  I don't even know if the filesystem would know
which network device is going to be used for the IO at the time of
IO submission.

I think a totally different model is needed where we can find out if
the bvec contains pages which are already mapped to the device, and map
them if they aren't.  That also handles a DM case where extra devices
are hot-added to a RAID, for example.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-08  1:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-05 16:24 [PATCHv3 0/7] dma mapping optimisations Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 1/7] blk-mq: add ops to dma map bvec Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 2/7] file: " Keith Busch
2022-08-08  0:21   ` Dave Chinner
2022-08-08  1:13     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2022-08-08  2:15       ` Dave Chinner
2022-08-08  2:49         ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08  7:31           ` Dave Chinner
2022-08-08 15:28             ` Keith Busch
2022-08-08 10:14         ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 3/7] iov_iter: introduce type for preregistered dma tags Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 4/7] block: add dma tag bio type Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 5/7] io_uring: introduce file slot release helper Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 6/7] io_uring: add support for dma pre-mapping Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 7/7] nvme-pci: implement dma_map support Keith Busch
2022-08-09  6:46 ` [PATCHv3 0/7] dma mapping optimisations Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-09 14:18   ` Keith Busch
2022-08-09 18:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-09 16:46   ` Keith Busch
2022-08-09 18:41     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-10 18:05       ` Keith Busch
2022-08-11  7:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-31 21:19           ` Keith Busch

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