From: Keith Busch <[email protected]>
To: Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>
Cc: Keith Busch <[email protected]>,
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], Alexander Viro <[email protected]>,
Kernel Team <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 0/7] dma mapping optimisations
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 15:19:49 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yw/[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 09:22:32AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 12:05:05PM -0600, Keith Busch wrote:
> > The functions are implemented under 'include/linux/', indistinguishable from
> > exported APIs. I think I understand why they are there, but they look the same
> > as exported functions from a driver perspective.
>
> swiotlb.h is not a driver API. There's two leftovers used by the drm
> code I'm trying to get fixed up, but in general the DMA API is the
> interface and swiotlb is just an implementation detail.
>
> > Perhaps I'm being daft, but I'm totally missing why I should care if swiotlb
> > leverages this feature. If you're using that, you've traded performance for
> > security or compatibility already. If this idea can be used to make it perform
> > better, then great, but that shouldn't be the reason to hold this up IMO.
>
> We firstly need to make sure that everything actually works on swiotlb, or
> any other implementation that properly implements the DMA API.
>
> And the fact that I/O performance currently sucks and we can fix it on
> the trusted hypervisor is an important consideration. At least as
> importantant as micro-optimizing performance a little more on setups
> not using them. So not taking care of both in one go seems rather silly
> for a feature that is in its current form pretty intrusive and thus needs
> a really good justification.
Sorry for the delay response; I had some trouble with test setup.
Okay, I will restart developing this with swiotlb in mind.
In the mean time, I wanted to share some results with this series because I'm
thinking this might be past the threshold for when we can drop the "micro-"
prefix on optimisations.
The most significant data points are these:
* submission latency stays the same regardless of the transfer size or depth
* IOPs is always equal or better (usually better) with up to 50% reduced
cpu cost
Based on this, I do think this type of optimisation is worth having a something
like a new bio type. I know this introduces some complications in the io-path,
but it is pretty minimal and doesn't add any size penalties to common structs
for drivers that don't use them.
Test details:
fio with ioengine=io_uring
'none': using __user void*
'bvec': using buf registered with IORING_REGISTER_BUFFERS
'dma': using buf registered with IORING_REGISTER_MAP_BUFFERS (new)
intel_iommu=on
Results:
(submission latency [slat] in nano-seconds)
Q-Depth 1:
Size | Premap | IOPs | slat | sys-cpu%
.....|..........|.........|........|.........
4k | none | 41.4k | 2126 | 16.47%
| bvec | 43.8k | 1843 | 15.79%
| dma | 46.8k | 1504 | 14.94%
16k | none | 33.3k | 3279 | 17.78%
| bvec | 33.9k | 2607 | 14.59%
| dma | 40.2k | 1490 | 12.57%
64k | none | 18.7k | 6778 | 18.22%
| bvec | 20.0k | 4626 | 13.80%
| dma | 22.6k | 1586 | 7.58%
Q-Depth 16:
Size | Premap | IOPs | slat | sys-cpu%
.....|..........|.........|........|.........
4k | none | 207k | 3657 | 72.81%
| bvec | 219k | 3369 | 71.55%
| dma | 310k | 2237 | 60.16%
16k | none | 164k | 5024 | 78.38%
| bvec | 177k | 4553 | 76.29%
| dma | 186k | 1880 | 43.56%
64k | none | 46.7k | 4424 | 30.51%
| bvec | 46.7k | 4389 | 29.42%
| dma | 46.7k | 1574 | 15.61%
prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-31 21:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-05 16:24 [PATCHv3 0/7] dma mapping optimisations Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 1/7] blk-mq: add ops to dma map bvec Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 2/7] file: " Keith Busch
2022-08-08 0:21 ` Dave Chinner
2022-08-08 1:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08 2:15 ` Dave Chinner
2022-08-08 2:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08 7:31 ` Dave Chinner
2022-08-08 15:28 ` Keith Busch
2022-08-08 10:14 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 3/7] iov_iter: introduce type for preregistered dma tags Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 4/7] block: add dma tag bio type Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 5/7] io_uring: introduce file slot release helper Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 6/7] io_uring: add support for dma pre-mapping Keith Busch
2022-08-05 16:24 ` [PATCHv3 7/7] nvme-pci: implement dma_map support Keith Busch
2022-08-09 6:46 ` [PATCHv3 0/7] dma mapping optimisations Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-09 14:18 ` Keith Busch
2022-08-09 18:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-09 16:46 ` Keith Busch
2022-08-09 18:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-10 18:05 ` Keith Busch
2022-08-11 7:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-31 21:19 ` Keith Busch [this message]
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