From: Keith Busch <[email protected]>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <[email protected]>
Cc: Bart Van Assche <[email protected]>,
Nitesh Shetty <[email protected]>,
Javier Gonzalez <[email protected]>,
Matthew Wilcox <[email protected]>,
Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>, Keith Busch <[email protected]>,
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv10 0/9] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 08:21:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0iKbPttERXaiexO@kbusch-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 03:14:09PM -0500, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
>
> Bart,
>
> > Submitting a copy operation as two bios or two requests means that
> > there is a risk that one of the two operations never reaches the block
> > driver at the bottom of the storage stack and hence that a deadlock
> > occurs. I prefer not to introduce any mechanisms that can cause a
> > deadlock.
>
> How do you copy a block range without offload? You perform a READ to
> read the data into memory. And once the READ completes, you do a WRITE
> of the data to the new location.
>
> Token-based copy offload works exactly the same way. You do a POPULATE
> TOKEN which is identical to a READ except you get a cookie instead of
> the actual data. And then once you have the cookie, you perform a WRITE
> USING TOKEN to perform the write operation. Semantically, it's exactly
> the same as a normal copy except for the lack of data movement. That's
> the whole point!
I think of copy a little differently. When you do a normal write
command, the host provides the controller a vector of sources and
lengths. A copy command is like a write command, but the sources are
just logical block addresses instead of memory addresses.
Whatever solution happens, it would be a real shame if it doesn't allow
vectored LBAs. The token based source bio doesn't seem to extend to
that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-28 15:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-29 15:19 [PATCHv10 0/9] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 1/9] block: use generic u16 for write hints Keith Busch
2024-10-29 17:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 2/9] block: introduce max_write_hints queue limit Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 3/9] statx: add write hint information Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 4/9] block: allow ability to limit partition write hints Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 17:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30 4:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 20:11 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 20:26 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30 20:37 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 21:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 5/9] block, fs: add write hint to kiocb Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 6/9] io_uring: enable per-io hinting capability Keith Busch
2024-11-07 2:09 ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 7/9] block: export placement hint feature Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 8/9] nvme: enable FDP support Keith Busch
2024-10-30 0:24 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2024-10-29 15:19 ` [PATCHv10 9/9] scsi: set permanent stream count in block limits Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 15:34 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 15:38 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-29 15:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 16:22 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 4:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 15:41 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 15:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 15:48 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 15:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 16:42 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 16:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 17:05 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 17:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 17:23 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-30 22:32 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-31 8:19 ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-31 13:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-31 14:06 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-01 7:16 ` Hans Holmberg
2024-11-01 8:19 ` Javier González
2024-11-01 14:49 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-06 14:26 ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-30 16:59 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30 17:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-30 17:44 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-01 1:03 ` Jaegeuk Kim
2024-10-29 17:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-30 5:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-29 15:24 ` [PATCHv10 0/9] write hints with nvme fdp, scsi streams Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-05 15:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-06 18:36 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-07 20:36 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-08 14:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-08 15:51 ` Keith Busch
2024-11-08 16:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-08 17:43 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-08 18:51 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-11 9:31 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11 17:45 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-12 13:52 ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-11-19 2:03 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-25 23:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-27 2:54 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-27 18:42 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-27 20:14 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-27 21:06 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-28 2:09 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-11-28 8:51 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-29 6:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-29 6:23 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-28 3:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-28 15:21 ` Keith Busch [this message]
2024-11-28 16:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-11 6:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-11 9:30 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11 9:37 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-11-11 9:41 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11 9:42 ` hch
2024-11-11 9:43 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-11-11 10:37 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-11-11 6:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-11 6:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
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