From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FAA11FF1BF; Tue, 4 Mar 2025 23:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=198.137.202.133 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1741132155; cv=none; b=AsC3sBJUc8lndCJoJCVKGXwj8G17Ao3LZrIs4ekkDc4/fS8yoAIybiyVqd0AKy2ugLhTBPScGMWgJDR4B/pNl/Qj69qClyYkknMRe3ng3GRW8rXiSw7iUxgoME7UR2Flfu8ac1RYoYLrP4PGc0mFkMqBx7xuiDx6XAO/y3hx+/U= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1741132155; c=relaxed/simple; bh=ks/4c4sgQXSDhyHvP2NbUKCE/Ch6lf5kd37cUJOSHiw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=bAuQZp4fPCXx6djcIapW6ylIzgnPY10M4P6LjkhsXMmUIXPO0r7Je3HSEdhRhCiX0Dm28lWIusYRHb11gBpXCTloYj1/Kd5yK/Z8LT88c9poZ+7oLNIofuxwlwBsG81rR6jxrCHgPgqTSDNxt/lTwbkN7NGt1eia1gMkzoJrqh0= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=bombadil.srs.infradead.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b=r12T5CUv; arc=none smtp.client-ip=198.137.202.133 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=bombadil.srs.infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="r12T5CUv" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=GnfwnItORsJ1Jvi9M7G+8hlt6pq6w6viyYuzebGi3w8=; b=r12T5CUveUF8MNsJ75xJ+v/0TS MWxnggAqxgi909It6OVt0Vgn0F6X23Ok7xW7LUp83v5x5jgNCvZ0uA2okU9OYV1tKcS8GHdDBRTv5 jPIP9IR4wRyGF9a3ZUe5t8321W89OYB4roVAggSIK7KTJj8MnUURFFCsS5D3XTX96nChfyvRk6ltn ZbO/0d7VZ8DPyT6/gsw24NVJj8cFpJkDrMjUQoe/SWBwslOZeabLqLUn7AIUENOLMnOlH1Z04FE7g Yhs1gC5zaxsVCs2vTVX+mP77Uag2h05owxQhGX1BURKsAQR/Mzjz+CRmeLjK9y6smAU+PXHFk8Ucy rnB5/QGQ==; Received: from hch by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.98 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1tpc0f-00000006YuN-2tIQ; Tue, 04 Mar 2025 23:49:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:49:13 -0800 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Jens Axboe Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Pavel Begunkov , Christian Brauner , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Chinner , io-uring@vger.kernel.org, "Darrick J . Wong" , linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, wu lei Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] iomap: propagate nowait to block layer Message-ID: References: <83af597f-e599-41d2-a17b-273d6d877dad@gmail.com> <1e7bbcdf-f677-43e4-b888-7a4614515c62@kernel.dk> <876fa989-ee26-41b3-9cd4-2663343d21f7@kernel.dk> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: io-uring@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <876fa989-ee26-41b3-9cd4-2663343d21f7@kernel.dk> X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 04:43:29PM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote: > On 3/4/25 4:26 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 10:36:16AM -0700, Jens Axboe wrote: > >> stable and actual production certainly do. Not that this should drive > >> upstream development in any way, it's entirely unrelated to the problem > >> at hand. > > > > And that's exactly what I'm saying. Do the right thing instead of > > whining about backports to old kernels. > > Yep we agree on that, that's obvious. What I'm objecting to is your > delivery, which was personal rather than factual, which you should imho > apologize for. I thus sincerly apologize for flaming Pavel for whining about backporting, but I'd still prefer he would have taken up that proposal on technical grounds as I see absolutely no alternatively to synchronously returning an error. > And honestly pretty tiring that this needs to be said, still. Really. An I'm really tired of folks whining about backporting instead of staying ontopic.