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From: Ming Lei <[email protected]>
To: Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>
Cc: Dave Chinner <[email protected]>,
	Mikulas Patocka <[email protected]>,
	Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, Jooyung Han <[email protected]>,
	Alasdair Kergon <[email protected]>,
	Mike Snitzer <[email protected]>,
	Heinz Mauelshagen <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH] the dm-loop target
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 15:41:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9vGxrPzJ6oswWrS@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 12:08:19AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 05:34:28PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 12:57:17AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 03:27:48PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > Yes, NOWAIT may then add an incremental performance improvement on
> > > > top for optimal layout cases, but I'm still not yet convinced that
> > > > it is a generally applicable loop device optimisation that everyone
> > > > wants to always enable due to the potential for 100% NOWAIT
> > > > submission failure on any given loop device.....
> > 
> > NOWAIT failure can be avoided actually:
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/[email protected]/
> 
> That's a very complex set of heuristics which doesn't match up
> with other uses of it.

I'd suggest you to point them out in the patch review.

> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Yes, I think this is a really good first step:
> > > 
> > > 1) switch loop to use a per-command work_item unconditionally, which also
> > >    has the nice effect that it cleans up the horrible mess of the
> > >    per-blkcg workers.  (note that this is what the nvmet file backend has
> > 
> > It could be worse to take per-command work, because IO handling crosses
> > all system wq worker contexts.
> 
> So do other workloads with pretty good success.
> 
> > 
> > >    always done with good result)
> > 
> > per-command work does burn lots of CPU unnecessarily, it isn't good for
> > use case of container
> 
> That does not match my observations in say nvmet.  But if you have
> numbers please share them.

Please see the result I posted:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/Z9FFTiuMC8WD6qMH@fedora/


Thanks,
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-20  7:42 UTC|newest]

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2025-03-11 10:43                   ` [PATCH] the dm-loop target Ming Lei
2025-03-12  2:34                     ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-12  6:24                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:26                       ` Ming Lei
2025-03-13  1:36                         ` Ming Lei
2025-03-13 16:36                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2025-03-18  4:27                           ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-18  7:57                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18  9:34                               ` Ming Lei
2025-03-20  7:08                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-20  7:41                                   ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-03-20 14:22                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-20 14:36                                       ` Ming Lei

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