From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Jooyung Han <jooyung@google.com>,
Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>,
Heinz Mauelshagen <heinzm@redhat.com>,
zkabelac@redhat.com, dm-devel@lists.linux.dev,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] the dm-loop target
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 15:41:58 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9vGxrPzJ6oswWrS@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9u-489C_PVu8Se1@infradead.org>
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 12:08:19AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 05:34:28PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 12:57:17AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 03:27:48PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > Yes, NOWAIT may then add an incremental performance improvement on
> > > > top for optimal layout cases, but I'm still not yet convinced that
> > > > it is a generally applicable loop device optimisation that everyone
> > > > wants to always enable due to the potential for 100% NOWAIT
> > > > submission failure on any given loop device.....
> >
> > NOWAIT failure can be avoided actually:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/20250314021148.3081954-6-ming.lei@redhat.com/
>
> That's a very complex set of heuristics which doesn't match up
> with other uses of it.
I'd suggest you to point them out in the patch review.
>
> >
> > >
> > > Yes, I think this is a really good first step:
> > >
> > > 1) switch loop to use a per-command work_item unconditionally, which also
> > > has the nice effect that it cleans up the horrible mess of the
> > > per-blkcg workers. (note that this is what the nvmet file backend has
> >
> > It could be worse to take per-command work, because IO handling crosses
> > all system wq worker contexts.
>
> So do other workloads with pretty good success.
>
> >
> > > always done with good result)
> >
> > per-command work does burn lots of CPU unnecessarily, it isn't good for
> > use case of container
>
> That does not match my observations in say nvmet. But if you have
> numbers please share them.
Please see the result I posted:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/Z9FFTiuMC8WD6qMH@fedora/
Thanks,
Ming
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2025-03-11 10:43 ` [PATCH] the dm-loop target Ming Lei
2025-03-12 2:34 ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-12 6:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 8:26 ` Ming Lei
2025-03-13 1:36 ` Ming Lei
2025-03-13 16:36 ` Mikulas Patocka
2025-03-18 4:27 ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-18 7:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-18 9:34 ` Ming Lei
2025-03-20 7:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-20 7:41 ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-03-20 14:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-20 14:36 ` Ming Lei
2025-03-25 10:15 ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-25 12:23 ` Ming Lei
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