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From: Jason Gunthorpe <[email protected]>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], [email protected],
	Andrew Morton <[email protected]>,
	Matthew Wilcox <[email protected]>,
	David Hildenbrand <[email protected]>,
	Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] io_uring: rsrc: use FOLL_SAME_FILE on pin_user_pages()
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 16:24:04 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 08:00:48PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:

> So I don't think this route is plausible unless you were thinking of
> somehow offloading to a thread?

ah, fair enough
 
> In any case, if we institute the FOLL_ALLOW_BROKEN_FILE_MAPPINGS flag we
> can just drop FOLL_ANON altogether right, as this will be implied and
> hugetlb should work here too?

Well.. no, as I said read-only access to the pages works fine, so GUP
should not block that. It is only write that has issues

> Separately, I find the semantics of access_remote_vm() kind of weird, and
> with a possible mmap_lock-free future it does make me wonder whether
> something better could be done there.

Yes, it is very weird, kthread_use_mm is much nicer.
 
> (Section where I sound like I might be going mad) Perhaps having some means
> of context switching into the kernel portion of the remote process as if
> were a system call or soft interrupt handler and having that actually do
> the uaccess operation could be useful here?

This is the kthread_use_mm() approach, that is basically what it
does. You are suggesting to extend it to kthreads that already have a
process attached...

access_remote_vm is basically copy_to/from_user built using kmap and
GUP.

even a simple step of localizing FOLL_ANON to __access_remote_vm,
since it must have the VMA nyhow, would be an improvement.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-17 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <[email protected]>
2023-04-14 23:27 ` [PATCH 5/7] io_uring: rsrc: use FOLL_SAME_FILE on pin_user_pages() Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-17 12:56   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-17 13:19     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-17 13:26       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-17 14:00         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-17 14:15           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-17 15:20             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-17 19:00         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-17 19:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-04-17 19:45             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-18 16:25     ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-18 16:35       ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-18 16:36       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-18 17:25         ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-18 18:19           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-14 23:27 ` [PATCH 6/7] mm/gup: remove vmas parameter from pin_user_pages() Lorenzo Stoakes

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