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From: Matthew Wilcox <[email protected]>
To: David Hildenbrand <[email protected]>
Cc: Andrew Morton <[email protected]>,
	Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] mm: Add deferred_list page flag
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 13:05:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 12:12:44PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 16.08.23 05:14, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > >   * Are managed on the LRU
> > 
> > I think this is the best one to go with.  Either that or "managed by
> > rmap".  That excludes compoud pages which are allocated from vmalloc()
> > (which can be mmaped), page tables, slab, etc.  It includes both file
> > and anon folios.
> > 
> > I have a handy taxonomy here: https://kernelnewbies.org/MemoryTypes
> > 
> > Unfortunately, folio_test_lru() already exists and means something
> > different ("Is this folio on an LRU list").  I fear folio_test_rmap()
> > would have a similar confusion -- "Is this folio currently findable by
> > rmap", or some such. folio_test_rmappable()?
> But what about hugetlb, they are also remappable? We could have
> folio_test_rmappable(), but that would then also better include hugetlb ...

We could do that!  Have both hugetlb & huge_memory.c set the rmappable
flag.  We'd still know which destructor to call because hugetlb also sets
the hugetlb flag.

> Starting at the link you provided, I guess "vmalloc" and "net pool" would
> not fall under that category, or would they? (I'm assuming they don't get
> mapped using the rmap, so they are "different", and they are not managed by
> lru).

Right, neither type of page ends up on the LRU, and neither is added to
rmap.

> So I assume we only care about anon+file (lru-managed). Only these are
> rmappable (besides hugetlb), correct?
> 
> folio_test_lru_managed()
> 
> Might be cleanest to describe anon+file that are managed by the lru, just
> might not be on a lru list right now (difference to folio_test_lru()).

Something I didn't think about last night is that this flag only
_exists_ for large folios.  folio_test_lru_managed() (and
folio_test_rmappable()) both sound like they might work if you call them
on single-page folios, but we BUG if you do (see folio_flags()) 

> I've been also thinking about
> 
> "folio_test_normal"
> 
> But it only makes sense when "all others (including hugetlb) are the odd
> one".

Who's to say slab is abnormal?  ;-)  But this one also fails to
communicate "only call this on large folios".  folio_test_splittable()
does at least communicate that this is related to large folios, although
one might simply expect it to return false for single-page folios rather
than BUG.

folio_test_large_rmappable()?

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-16 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-15  3:26 [PATCH 0/9] Remove _folio_dtor and _folio_order Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-15  3:26 ` [PATCH 1/9] io_uring: Stop calling free_compound_page() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-15  7:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15 15:00   ` Jens Axboe
2023-08-15 15:36     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-15  3:26 ` [PATCH 2/9] mm: Call the hugetlb destructor directly Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-15  7:36   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15  3:26 ` [PATCH 3/9] mm: Call free_transhuge_folio() directly from destroy_large_folio() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-15  6:13   ` kernel test robot
2023-08-15  7:40   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15 14:06     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-15  8:09   ` kernel test robot
2023-08-15  3:26 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm: Make free_compound_page() static Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-15  7:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15  7:48     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15  3:26 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm: Remove free_compound_page() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-15  7:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15  3:26 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm: Remove HUGETLB_PAGE_DTOR Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-15  7:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15  3:26 ` [PATCH 7/9] mm: Add deferred_list page flag Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-15  7:54   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15 15:32     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-15 16:40       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15 17:06         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-15 17:27           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15 19:58             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-16  3:14               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-16 10:12                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-16 12:05                   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-08-16 12:34                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-16  9:55               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15  3:26 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: Rearrange page flags Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-15  4:30   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15 19:24   ` Peter Xu
2023-08-15 20:07     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-15 22:31       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15 23:01         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-15 23:33           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-15  3:26 ` [PATCH 9/9] mm: Free up a word in the first tail page Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2023-08-15  7:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-15 11:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-15 19:21   ` Peter Xu

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