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From: Keith Busch <[email protected]>
To: Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>
Cc: Bart Van Assche <[email protected]>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <[email protected]>,
	Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, Kanchan Joshi <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/3] FDP and per-io hints
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 15:48:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zv8RQLES1LJtDsKC@kbusch-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 02:55:16PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2024 at 11:34:47AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > Isn't FDP about communicating much more than only this information to
> > the block device, e.g. information about reclaim units? Although I'm
> > personally not interested in FDP, my colleagues were involved in the
> > standardization of FDP.
> 
> Yes, it is.  And when I explained how to properly export this kind of
> information can be implemented on top of the version Kanchan sent everyone
> suddenly stopped diskussion technical points and went either silent or
> all political.

The nominals can mean whatever you want. If you want it to mean
"temperature", then that's what it means. If you want it to mean
something else, then don't use this.

These are hints at the end of the day. Nothing locks the kernel into
this if a better solution develops. As you know, it was ripped out
before.

> So I think some peoples bonuses depend on not understanding the problem
> I fear :(

The only "bonus" I have is not repeatedly explaining why people can't
use h/w features the way they want.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-03 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20240930182052epcas5p37edefa7556b87c3fbb543275756ac736@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2024-09-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] FDP and per-io hints Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20240930182056epcas5p33f823c00caadf9388b509bafcad86f3d@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2024-09-30 18:13     ` [PATCH v7 1/3] nvme: enable FDP support Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-02 18:37       ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-03 12:55         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <CGME20240930182100epcas5p31a010c225f3c76aa4dc54fced32abd2a@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2024-09-30 18:13     ` [PATCH v7 2/3] block, fs: restore kiocb based write hint processing Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20240930182103epcas5p4c9e91ca3cdf20e900b1425ae45fef81d@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2024-09-30 18:13     ` [PATCH v7 3/3] io_uring: enable per-io hinting capability Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-02 14:26       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-10-17 14:58         ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-02 18:29       ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-01  9:20   ` [PATCH v7 0/3] FDP and per-io hints Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-01 15:58     ` James R. Bergsten
2024-10-01 16:18     ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-02  7:51       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:03         ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-02 15:13           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:17             ` Keith Busch
2024-10-02 15:19               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:33                 ` Keith Busch
2024-10-03 12:51                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 15:47                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2024-10-02 18:34                   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-03 12:55                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-03 21:48                       ` Keith Busch [this message]
2024-10-03 22:00                         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-03 22:12                           ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-03 22:17                           ` Keith Busch
2024-10-04  6:21                       ` Javier González
2024-10-04  6:24                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-04  6:59                           ` Javier González
2024-10-04 12:32                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-07 11:29                               ` Javier González
2024-10-08 12:27                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-03 12:54                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-03 22:14                     ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-04  5:31                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-04  6:18                         ` Javier González
2024-10-04  6:27                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-04  6:52                             ` Javier González
2024-10-04 12:30                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-07 10:10                                 ` Javier González
2024-10-08 10:06                                   ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-09 14:36                                     ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-10  6:40                                       ` Hans Holmberg
2024-10-10  7:13                                         ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-10  9:20                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-10 12:22                                             ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-11  8:56                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 12:21                                                 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-11 16:59                                                   ` Keith Busch
2024-10-10 10:46                                           ` Hans Holmberg
     [not found]                                             ` <CGME20241010122734eucas1p1e20a5263a4d69db81b50b8b03608fad1@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2024-10-10 12:27                                               ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-11  8:59                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-08 12:25                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-08 14:44                                     ` Keith Busch
2024-10-09  9:28                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-09 15:06                                         ` Keith Busch
     [not found]                                           ` <CGME20241010070738eucas1p2057209e5f669f37ca586ad4a619289ed@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2024-10-10  7:07                                             ` Javier González
2024-10-10  9:13                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-10 11:59                                                 ` Javier González
2024-10-11  9:02                                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-11 17:08                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-14  6:21                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14  7:02                                                         ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-14  7:47                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-14  9:08                                                             ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-14 11:50                                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-15  3:07                                                                 ` Javier Gonzalez
2024-10-15  5:30                                                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-10  9:10                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-09 16:28                                         ` Nitesh Shetty
2024-10-02 15:22             ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-01 16:23     ` Keith Busch
2024-10-02  7:49       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-02 14:56         ` Keith Busch
2024-10-02 15:00           ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-03  0:20   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-15  5:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-15 15:09     ` Keith Busch
2024-10-15 15:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 14:35     ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-10-17 15:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 15:44         ` Keith Busch
2024-10-17 15:46           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-17 16:06             ` Keith Busch
2024-10-17 16:15           ` Bart Van Assche
2024-10-17 16:23             ` Keith Busch

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