From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Josh Triplett <[email protected]>
Cc: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
[email protected],
"David S . Miller" <[email protected]>,
Jakub Kicinski <[email protected]>,
[email protected], [email protected],
Stefan Metzmacher <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] open/accept directly into io_uring fixed file table
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 09:05:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YRiNGTL2Dp/7vNzt@localhost>
On 8/14/21 9:42 PM, Josh Triplett wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 05:03:44PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> What's the plan in terms of limiting the amount of direct descriptors
>> (for lack of a better word)? That seems like an important aspect that
>> should get sorted out upfront.
> [...]
>> Maybe we have a way to size the direct table, which will consume entries
>> from the same pool that the regular file table does? That would then
>> work both ways, and could potentially just be done dynamically similarly
>> to how we expand the regular file table when we exceed its current size.
>
> I think we'll want a way to size the direct table regardless, so that
> it's pre-allocated and doesn't need to be resized when an index is used.
But how do you size it then? I can see this being used into the hundreds
of thousands of fds easily, and right now the table is just an array
(though split into segments, avoiding huge allocs).
> Then, we could do one of two equally easy things, depending on what
> policy we want to set:
>
> - Deduct the full size of the fixed-file table from the allowed number
> of files the process can have open. So, if RLIMIT_NOFILE is 1048576,
> and you pre-allocate 1000000 entries in the fixed-file table, you can
> have no more than 48576 file descriptors open. Stricter, but
> potentially problematic: a program *might* expect that it can
> dup2(some_fd, nofile - 1) successfully.
>
> - Use RLIMIT_NOFILE as the maximum size of the fixed-file table. There's
> precedent for this: we already use RLIMIT_NOFILE as the maximum number
> of file descriptors you can have in flight over UNIX sockets.
>
> I personally would favor the latter; it seems simple and
> straightforward.
I strongly prefer the latter too, and hopefully that's palatable since
the default limits are quite low anyway. And, as you say, it already is
done for inflight fds as well.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-15 15:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-13 16:43 [PATCH v2 0/4] open/accept directly into io_uring fixed file table Pavel Begunkov
2021-08-13 16:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] net: add accept helper not installing fd Pavel Begunkov
2021-08-13 16:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] io_uring: openat directly into fixed fd table Pavel Begunkov
2021-08-13 16:43 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] io_uring: hand code io_accept() fd installing Pavel Begunkov
2021-08-13 16:43 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] io_uring: accept directly into fixed file table Pavel Begunkov
2021-08-13 19:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] open/accept directly into io_uring " Josh Triplett
2021-08-14 12:50 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-08-14 23:03 ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-15 3:42 ` Josh Triplett
2021-08-15 15:05 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2021-08-15 15:12 ` Jens Axboe
2021-08-15 13:00 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-08-15 3:31 ` Josh Triplett
2021-08-15 10:48 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-08-15 14:23 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-08-16 15:45 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2021-08-17 9:33 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-08-17 14:57 ` Jens Axboe
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