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From: Olivier Langlois <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
	 [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] abstract napi tracking strategy
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 17:34:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On Tue, 2024-08-13 at 12:33 -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 8/13/24 10:44 AM, Olivier Langlois wrote:
> > the actual napi tracking strategy is inducing a non-negligeable
> > overhead.
> > Everytime a multishot poll is triggered or any poll armed, if the
> > napi is
> > enabled on the ring a lookup is performed to either add a new napi
> > id into
> > the napi_list or its timeout value is updated.
> > 
> > For many scenarios, this is overkill as the napi id list will be
> > pretty
> > much static most of the time. To address this common scenario, a
> > new
> > abstraction has been created following the common Linux kernel
> > idiom of
> > creating an abstract interface with a struct filled with function
> > pointers.
> > 
> > Creating an alternate napi tracking strategy is therefore made in 2
> > phases.
> > 
> > 1. Introduce the io_napi_tracking_ops interface
> > 2. Implement a static napi tracking by defining a new
> > io_napi_tracking_ops
> 
> I don't think we should create ops for this, unless there's a strict
> need to do so. Indirect function calls aren't cheap, and the CPU side
> mitigations for security issues made them worse.
> 
> You're not wrong that ops is not an uncommon idiom in the kernel, but
> it's a lot less prevalent as a solution than it used to. Exactly
> because
> of the above reasons.
> 
if indirection is a very big deal, it might be possible to remove one
level of indirection.

I did entertain the idea of making copies of the io_napi_tracking_ops
structs instead of storing their addresses. I did not kept this option
because of the way that I did implement io_napi_get_tracking()...

but if this would be an acceptable compromise, this is definitely
something possible.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-13 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-13 16:44 [PATCH 0/2] abstract napi tracking strategy Olivier Langlois
2024-08-13 17:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] io_uring/napi: Introduce io_napi_tracking_ops Olivier Langlois
2024-08-14 11:44   ` Olivier Langlois
2024-08-14 13:17     ` Jens Axboe
2024-08-13 17:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] io_uring/napi: add static napi tracking strategy Olivier Langlois
2024-08-13 18:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] abstract " Jens Axboe
2024-08-13 21:25   ` Olivier Langlois
2024-08-13 21:44     ` Jens Axboe
2024-08-15 22:17       ` Olivier Langlois
2024-08-15 22:44         ` Olivier Langlois
2024-08-16 14:26           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-09-16 18:29             ` Olivier Langlois
2024-08-13 22:36     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-14 13:28       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13 21:34   ` Olivier Langlois [this message]
2024-08-13 21:45     ` Jens Axboe

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