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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Cc: io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>, "David Wei" <dw@davidwei.uk>,
	"Vishal Verma" <vishal1.verma@intel.com>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/12] io_uring dmabuf read/write support
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:23:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGaSb5rpLD9uc1IK@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1751035820.git.asml.silence@gmail.com>

[Note: it would be really useful to Cc all relevant maintainers]

On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 04:10:27PM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> This series implements it for read/write io_uring requests. The uAPI
> looks similar to normal registered buffers, the user will need to
> register a dmabuf in io_uring first and then use it as any other
> registered buffer. On registration the user also specifies a file
> to map the dmabuf for.

Just commenting from the in-kernel POV here, where the interface
feels wrong.

You can't just expose 'the DMA device' up file operations, because
there can be and often is more than one.  Similarly stuffing a
dma_addr_t into an iovec is rather dangerous.

The model that should work much better is to have file operations
to attach to / detach from a dma_buf, and then have an iter that
specifies a dmabuf and offsets into.  That way the code behind the
file operations can forward the attachment to all the needed
devices (including more/less while it remains attached to the file)
and can pick the right dma address for each device.

I also remember some discussion that new dma-buf importers should
use the dynamic imported model for long-term imports, but as I'm
everything but an expert in that area I'll let the dma-buf folks
speak.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-03 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-27 15:10 [RFC 00/12] io_uring dmabuf read/write support Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 01/12] file: add callback returning dev for dma operations Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 02/12] iov_iter: introduce iter type for pre-registered dma Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 03/12] block: move around bio flagging helpers Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 04/12] block: introduce dmavec bio type Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 05/12] block: implement ->get_dma_device callback Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 06/12] nvme-pci: add support for user passed dma vectors Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 07/12] io_uring/rsrc: extended reg buffer registration Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 08/12] io_uring: add basic dmabuf helpers Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 09/12] io_uring/rsrc: add imu flags Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 10/12] io_uring/rsrc: add dmabuf-backed buffer registeration Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 11/12] io_uring/rsrc: implement dmabuf regbuf import Pavel Begunkov
2025-06-27 15:10 ` [RFC 12/12] io_uring/rw: enable dma registered buffers Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-03 14:23 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-07-03 14:37   ` [RFC 00/12] io_uring dmabuf read/write support Christian König
2025-07-07 11:15   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-07 14:48     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-07 15:41       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-08  9:45         ` Christoph Hellwig

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