From: Sidong Yang <sidong.yang@furiosa.ai>
To: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
Cc: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>,
Caleb Sander Mateos <csander@purestorage.com>,
Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] rust: io_uring: introduce rust abstraction for io-uring cmd
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 22:56:30 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJtIDlSBLJSRxBwQ@sidongui-MacBookPro.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9A6E941F-3F40-40C5-A900-4C22B27D1982@collabora.com>
On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 09:43:56AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
>
>
> > On 12 Aug 2025, at 09:19, Sidong Yang <sidong.yang@furiosa.ai> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 10:34:56AM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> >> On Mon Aug 11, 2025 at 4:50 PM CEST, Sidong Yang wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 09:44:22AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> >>>>> There is `uring_cmd` callback in `file_operation` at c side. `Pin<&mut IoUringCmd>`
> >>>>> would be create in the callback function. But the callback function could be
> >>>>> called repeatedly with same `io_uring_cmd` instance as far as I know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But in c side, there is initialization step `io_uring_cmd_prep()`.
> >>>>> How about fill zero pdu in `io_uring_cmd_prep()`? And we could assign a byte
> >>>>> as flag in pdu for checking initialized also we should provide 31 bytes except
> >>>>> a byte for the flag.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That was a follow-up question of mine. Can´t we enforce zero-initialization
> >>>> in C to get rid of this MaybeUninit? Uninitialized data is just bad in general.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hopefully this can be done as you've described above, but I don't want to over
> >>>> extend my opinion on something I know nothing about.
> >>>
> >>> I need to add a commit that initialize pdu in prep step in next version.
> >>> I'd like to get a comment from io_uring maintainer Jens. Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> If we could initialize (filling zero) in prep step, How about casting issue?
> >>> Driver still needs to cast array to its private struct in unsafe?
> >>
> >> We still would have the casting issue.
> >>
> >> Can't we do the following:
> >>
> >> * Add a new associated type to `MiscDevice` called `IoUringPdu` that
> >> has to implement `Default` and have a size of at most 32 bytes.
> >> * make `IoUringCmd` generic
> >> * make `MiscDevice::uring_cmd` take `Pin<&mut IoUringCmd<Self::IoUringPdu>>`
> >> * initialize the private data to be `IoUringPdu::default()` when we
> >> create the `IoUringCmd` object.
> >
> > `uring_cmd` could be called multiple times. So we can't initialize
> > in that time. I don't understand that how can we cast [u8; 32] to
> > `IoUringPdu` safely. It seems that casting can't help to use unsafe.
> > I think best way is that just return zerod `&mut [u8; 32]` and
> > each driver implements safe serde logic for its private data.
> >
>
> Again, can´t we use FromBytes for this?
Agreed, we need FromBytes for read_pdu and AsBytes for write_pdu. I'll reference
dma code for next version.
Thanks,
Sidong
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-12 13:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-27 15:03 [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] rust: miscdevice: abstraction for uring-cmd Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] rust: bindings: add io_uring headers in bindings_helper.h Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] rust: io_uring: introduce rust abstraction for io-uring cmd Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 13:48 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 10:52 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-06 12:38 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06 13:38 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-08 6:56 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-08 8:49 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-08 9:43 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-09 10:18 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-09 12:51 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-09 20:22 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-10 13:50 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-10 14:27 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-10 14:46 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-10 20:06 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-11 12:34 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-11 12:44 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-11 14:50 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-12 8:34 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-12 12:19 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-12 12:43 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-12 13:56 ` Sidong Yang [this message]
2025-08-12 13:59 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-12 14:38 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-13 0:54 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-08 13:55 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-08-09 12:53 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-05 3:39 ` Sidong Yang
2025-08-05 13:02 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06 9:11 ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] rust: miscdevice: add uring_cmd() for MiscDevice trait Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 14:04 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07 7:46 ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 15:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] samples: rust: rust_misc_device: add uring_cmd example Sidong Yang
2025-08-01 14:11 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07 6:30 ` Sidong Yang
2025-07-27 17:17 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] rust: miscdevice: abstraction for uring-cmd Daniel Almeida
2025-08-01 14:13 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-07 6:17 ` Sidong Yang
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