From: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Caleb Sander Mateos <csander@purestorage.com>, io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET v2 0/8] Add support for mixed sized CQEs
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:40:01 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aKdZ8TUE811CBrSn@kbusch-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6145c373-d764-480b-a887-57ad60f872e7@kernel.dk>
On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 11:12:28AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>
> For the SQE case, I think it's a bit different. At least the cases I
> know of, it's mostly 100% 64b SQEs or 128b SQEs. I'm certainly willing
> to be told otherwise! Because that is kind of the key question that
> needs answering before even thinking about doing that kind of work.
The main use case I can think of is if an application allocates one ring
for uring_cmd with the 128b SQEs, and then a separate ring for normal
file and network stuff. Mixed SQE's would allow that application to have
just one ring without being wasteful, but I'm just not sure if the
separate rings is undesirable enough to make the effort worth it.
> But yes, it could be supported, and Keith (kind of) signed himself up to
> do that. One oddity I see on that side is that while with CQE32 the
> kernel can manage the potential wrap-around gap, for SQEs that's
> obviously on the application to do. That could just be a NOP or
> something like that, but you do need something to fill/skip that space.
> I guess that could be as simple as having an opcode that is simply "skip
> me", so on the kernel side it'd be easy as it'd just drop it on the
> floor. You still need to app side to fill one, however, and then deal
> with "oops SQ ring is now full" too.
Yep, I think it's doable, and your implementation for mixed CQEs
provides a great reference. I trust we can get liburing using it
correctly, but would be afraid for anyone not using the library.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-21 17:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-21 14:18 [PATCHSET v2 0/8] Add support for mixed sized CQEs Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 14:18 ` [PATCH 1/8] io_uring: remove io_ctx_cqe32() helper Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 14:18 ` [PATCH 2/8] io_uring: add UAPI definitions for mixed CQE postings Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 14:18 ` [PATCH 3/8] io_uring/fdinfo: handle mixed sized CQEs Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 14:18 ` [PATCH 4/8] io_uring/trace: support completion tracing of mixed 32b CQEs Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 14:18 ` [PATCH 5/8] io_uring: add support for IORING_SETUP_CQE_MIXED Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 14:18 ` [PATCH 6/8] io_uring/nop: " Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 14:18 ` [PATCH 7/8] io_uring/uring_cmd: " Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 14:18 ` [PATCH 8/8] io_uring/zcrx: " Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 17:02 ` [PATCHSET v2 0/8] Add support for mixed sized CQEs Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-08-21 17:12 ` Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 17:40 ` Keith Busch [this message]
2025-08-21 17:47 ` Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 17:41 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
2025-08-21 17:46 ` Jens Axboe
2025-08-21 18:19 ` Caleb Sander Mateos
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