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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Cc: io-uring@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/10] io_uring/bpf: implement struct_ops registration
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 22:29:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aSRrundGeeIpaKmd@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <015ee1ee-e0a4-491f-833f-9cef8c5349cc@gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 01:12:29PM +0000, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 11/24/25 03:44, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 11:59:44AM +0000, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> > > Add ring_fd to the struct_ops and implement [un]registration.
> ...
> > > +static int io_install_bpf(struct io_ring_ctx *ctx, struct io_uring_ops *ops)
> > > +{
> > > +	if (ctx->bpf_ops)
> > > +		return -EBUSY;
> > > +	ops->priv = ctx;
> > > +	ctx->bpf_ops = ops;
> > > +	ctx->bpf_installed = 1;
> > >   	return 0;
> > >   }
> > >   static int bpf_io_reg(void *kdata, struct bpf_link *link)
> > >   {
> > > -	return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> > > +	struct io_uring_ops *ops = kdata;
> > > +	struct io_ring_ctx *ctx;
> > > +	struct file *file;
> > > +	int ret = -EBUSY;
> > > +
> > > +	file = io_uring_register_get_file(ops->ring_fd, false);
> > > +	if (IS_ERR(file))
> > > +		return PTR_ERR(file);
> > > +	ctx = file->private_data;
> > > +
> > > +	scoped_guard(mutex, &io_bpf_ctrl_mutex) {
> > > +		guard(mutex)(&ctx->uring_lock);
> > > +		ret = io_install_bpf(ctx, ops);
> > > +	}
> > 
> > I feel per-io-uring struct_ops is less useful, because it means the io_uring
> > application has to be capable of loading/registering struct_ops prog, which
> > often needs privilege.
> 
> I gave it a thought before, there would need to be a way to pass a
> program from one (e.g. privileged) task to another, e.g. by putting
> it into a list on attachment from where it can be imported. That
> can be extended, and I needed to start somewhere.

If any task can ask such privileged task to load bpf program for itself,
BPF_UNPRIV_DEFAULT_OFF becomes `N` actually for bpf controlled io_uring.

> 
> > For example of IO link use case you mentioned, why does the application need
> > to get privilege for running IO link?
> 
> Links are there to compare with existing features. It's more interesting
> to allow arbitrary relations / result propagation between requests. Maybe
> some common patterns can be generalised, but otherwise nothing can be
> done with this without custom tailored bpf programs.

I know the motivation, which is one thing covered in my IORING_OP_BPF patch
too.


Thanks,
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-24 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-13 11:59 [PATCH v3 00/10] BPF controlled io_uring Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] io_uring: rename the wait queue entry field Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] io_uring: simplify io_cqring_wait_schedule results Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] io_uring: export __io_run_local_work Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] io_uring: extract waiting parameters into a struct Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] io_uring/bpf: add stubs for bpf struct_ops Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] io_uring/bpf: add handle events callback Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] io_uring/bpf: implement struct_ops registration Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-24  3:44   ` Ming Lei
2025-11-24 13:12     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-24 14:29       ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-11-25 12:46         ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] io_uring/bpf: add basic kfunc helpers Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] selftests/io_uring: update mini liburing Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-13 11:59 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] selftests/io_uring: add bpf io_uring selftests Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-14 13:08   ` Ming Lei
2025-11-19 19:00     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-20  1:41       ` Ming Lei
2025-11-21 16:12         ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-22  0:19           ` Ming Lei
2025-11-24 11:57             ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-11-24 13:28               ` Ming Lei

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