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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>, io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] io_uring: add IORING_CQE_F_POLLED flag
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2025 15:02:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ada8bfa0-e6fc-4900-b54b-40d2e18a54f4@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1aaef260-08a2-4fd1-9ded-b1b189a2bbe4@gmail.com>

On 7/12/25 8:49 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 7/12/25 12:34, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 7/12/25 00:59, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> ...>       /*
>>>        * If multishot has already posted deferred completions, ensure that
>>>        * those are flushed first before posting this one. If not, CQEs
>>> diff --git a/io_uring/io_uring.h b/io_uring/io_uring.h
>>> index dc17162e7af1..d837e02d26b2 100644
>>> --- a/io_uring/io_uring.h
>>> +++ b/io_uring/io_uring.h
>>> @@ -235,6 +235,8 @@ static inline void req_set_fail(struct io_kiocb *req)
>>>   static inline void io_req_set_res(struct io_kiocb *req, s32 res, u32 cflags)
>>>   {
>>> +    if (req->flags & REQ_F_POLL_WAKE)
>>> +        cflags |= IORING_CQE_F_POLLED;
>>
>> Can you avoid introducing this new uapi (and overhead) for requests that
>> don't care about it please? It's useless for multishots, and the only
>> real potential use case is send requests.
> 
> Another thought, I think the userspace can already easily infer
> information similar to what this flag gives. E.g. peek at CQEs
> right after submission and mark the inverse of the flag. The
> actual impl can be made nicer than that.

As per the previous reply, not sure it makes a ton of sense. The initial
hack I did was just for sends, and it actually just reused the bit for
SOCK_NONEMPTY, as it was only for writes. But then the concept seemed
generic enough that it'd be useful for writes. And then it becomes
mostly a "did I poll thing", which obviously then makes sense for single
shot read/recv as well.

Now it's taking a new bit, which isn't great.

But I think it's one of those things that need to ruminate a bit. Maybe
just go back to doing it purely for sends. But then perhaps you'd
actually want to know if the NEXT send would block, not that your
current one did.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-12 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <[PATCHSET 0/3] Add support for IORING_CQE_F_POLLED>
2025-07-11 23:59 ` Jens Axboe
2025-07-11 23:59   ` [PATCH 1/3] io_uring/poll: cleanup apoll freeing Jens Axboe
2025-07-11 23:59   ` [PATCH 2/3] io_uring/poll: flag request as having gone through poll wake machinery Jens Axboe
2025-07-12 11:39     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-12 20:59       ` Jens Axboe
2025-07-14  9:26         ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-14 14:54           ` Jens Axboe
2025-07-14 15:45             ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-14 17:51               ` Jens Axboe
2025-07-18 10:20                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-11 23:59   ` [PATCH 3/3] io_uring: add IORING_CQE_F_POLLED flag Jens Axboe
2025-07-12 11:34     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-12 14:49       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-07-12 21:02         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2025-07-12 23:05           ` Jens Axboe

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