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From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Linus Torvalds <[email protected]>
Cc: io-uring <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] io_uring fixes for 5.12-rc2
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 15:28:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wg_D4Mobaj9mff2PEy+Qm67kGTP3kxo2=Aoa_UTc1k-_A@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/6/21 2:14 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:25 AM Jens Axboe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> You're not, but creds is just one part of it. But I think we're OK
>> saying "If you do unshare(CLONE_FILES) or CLONE_FS, then it's not
>> going to impact async offload for your io_uring". IOW, you really
>> should do that before setting up your ring(s).
> 
> Yeah, I think that one is solidly in a "don't do that then" thing.
> 
> Changing credentials is "normal use" - if you are a server process,
> you may want to just make sure that you use different credentials for
> different client requests etc.
> 
> But doing something like "I set up an io_uring for async work, and
> then I dis-associated from my existing FS state entirely", that's not
> normal. That's just a "you did something crazy, and you'll get crazy
> results back, because the async part is fundamentally different from
> the synchronous part".

I agree, just wanted to make sure I wasn't the odd one out here...

> It might be an option to just tear down the IO uring state entirely if
> somebody does a "unshare(CLONE_FILES)", the same way unsharing the VM
> (ie execve) does. But then it shouldn't even try to keep the state in
> sync, it would just be "ok, your old io_uring is now simply gone".
> 
> I'm not sure it's even worth worrying about. Because at some point,
> it's just "garbage in, garbage out".

I'd rather not worry about it. It's perfectly legit, and lots of uses
cases do this, to use a ring and never have any work that uses the
io-wq thread helpers. For those cases, there's never any concern
with having moved to a different fs or files. So I'd rather just
put that one in the category of "don't do weird stuff, or you'll
get unexpected results".

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-06 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-05 18:09 [GIT PULL] io_uring fixes for 5.12-rc2 Jens Axboe
2021-03-05 20:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-05 21:58   ` Jens Axboe
2021-03-05 23:03     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-06 16:25       ` Jens Axboe
2021-03-06 21:14         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-06 22:28           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2021-03-05 21:58 ` pr-tracker-bot

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