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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	 Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	 David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,  Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	 Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	 Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	 Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	 Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org,  rcu@vger.kernel.org,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/task: always defer 'struct task_struct' destruction via RCU
Date: Sun, 10 May 2026 13:41:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <agCLBxHEUqWIepx8@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af5XymUlyE0Jsi2t@gpd4>

On Fri, May 08, 2026 at 11:38:18PM +0200, Andrea Righi wrote:
> Hi Alice,
> 
> On Fri, May 08, 2026 at 02:02:45PM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > The sched/task.h header file currently exposes a tryget_task_struct()
> > function, but it is very risky to use it: If the last refcount of the
> > task is dropped using put_task_struct_many(), then the task is freed
> > right away without an RCU grace period.
> > 
> > This means that if the kernel contains a code path anywhere such that
> > the last refcount of a task may be dropped with put_task_struct_many(),
> > and it also contains a code path anywhere that tries to stash a task
> > pointer under rcu and use tryget_task_struct() on it, then if they ever
> > execute on the same 'struct task_struct', it results in a
> > use-after-free.
> > 
> > The above applies even if the RCU user drops its own task reference with
> > put_task_struct(), because if that is not the last reference, then it's
> > possible for another thread to invoke put_task_struct_many() and free
> > the task less than a grace period after the RCU user called
> > put_task_struct().
> > 
> > There does not appear to be an actual problem in the kernel tree right
> > now because there are no in-tree users of put_task_struct_many() where
> > refcount_sub_and_test() might return 'true'. Io-uring invokes the
> > function from task work while the task is still running, so it will not
> > decrement it all the way to zero. (Note that if I'm wrong about this,
> > then it's probably possible to trigger UAF by combining this codepath in
> > io-uring with the tryget_task_struct() call in sched-ext.)
> > 
> > However, the current situation is fragile and error-prone.
> > - If you look at put_task_struct_many() in isolation, it looks like it
> >   would be okay to call it in a situation where refcount_sub_and_test()
> >   might return 'true'.
> > - Similarly, if you look at tryget_task_struct(), you would assume that
> >   you are allowed to call this method for a grace period after 'users'
> >   hitting zero. (If not, why does it exist?)
> > But if two different kernel developers anywhere in the kernel make these
> > conflicting assumptions at any point in the future, then the combination
> > of their code may lead to a use-after-free if there is any way for them
> > to interact via the same 'struct task_struct'.
> > 
> > Thus, as a defensive measure, we should either make
> > put_task_struct_many() use call_rcu(), or we should delete
> > tryget_task_struct(). This patch suggests the former because it does not
> > change anything for any callers that exist today. (As argued previously,
> > the body of the 'if' statement is dead code in the kernel today.)
> > 
> > The comment in put_task_struct() is also updated so that nobody changes
> > its implementation to only use call_rcu() under PREEMPT_RT in the
> > future. The current comment suggests that would be a legal change, but
> > it is similarly incompatible with anyone using tryget_task_struct().
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
> > ---
> > Including sched-ext and io-uring in the cc list as they are the only
> > users of tryget_task_struct() and put_task_struct_many() respectively.
> 
> For sched_ext I think we should be already protected by scx_tasks_lock.
> 
> From kernel/sched/core.c:
> 
>   finish_task_switch():
>       if (prev_state == TASK_DEAD) {
>           prev->sched_class->task_dead(prev);
>           sched_ext_dead(prev);
>           cgroup_task_dead(prev);
>           put_task_stack(prev);
>           ...
>           put_task_struct_rcu_user(prev);
>       }
> 
>  And sched_ext_dead() in kernel/sched/ext.c:
> 
>   scoped_guard(raw_spinlock_irqsave, &scx_tasks_lock) {
>       list_del_init(&p->scx.tasks_node);
>       ...
>   }
> 
> Now on the sched_ext iter side:
> 
>   scx_task_iter_start();                     /* takes scx_tasks_lock */
>   while ((p = scx_task_iter_next_locked()))
>       if (!tryget_task_struct(p))            /* still under scx_tasks_lock */
>          ...
> 
> So, the locking gives us the invariant: while the iter holds scx_tasks_lock and
> observes p on the list, sched_ext_dead(p) cannot have completed.

Correct my if I'm wrong, but this sounds like you don't need the tryget
variant. The 'users' counter is guaranteed be non-zero for one grace
period after put_task_struct_rcu_user(prev).

Alice

> And the css_task_iter paths have the analogous ordering.
> 
> That said, I think this patch still makes sense to provide a consistent
> semantics between put_task_struct() and put_task_struct_many(), as mentioned by
> Sebastian. So, maybe reword the message around consistency rather than UAF?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Andrea
> 
> > ---
> >  include/linux/sched/task.h | 24 +++++++++++++++---------
> >  1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/include/linux/sched/task.h b/include/linux/sched/task.h
> > index 41ed884cffc9..da2fbd17b676 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/sched/task.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/sched/task.h
> > @@ -131,19 +131,25 @@ static inline void put_task_struct(struct task_struct *t)
> >  		return;
> >  
> >  	/*
> > -	 * Under PREEMPT_RT, we can't call __put_task_struct
> > -	 * in atomic context because it will indirectly
> > -	 * acquire sleeping locks. The same is true if the
> > -	 * current process has a mutex enqueued (blocked on
> > -	 * a PI chain).
> > +	 * Delay __put_task_struct() for one grace period so
> > +	 * that tryget_task_struct() may be used for one
> > +	 * grace period after any call to put_task_struct().
> >  	 *
> > -	 * In !RT, it is always safe to call __put_task_struct().
> > -	 * Though, in order to simplify the code, resort to the
> > -	 * deferred call too.
> > +	 * This also has the benefit of making it legal to
> > +	 * call put_task_struct() in atomic context. We
> > +	 * can't do that under PREEMPT_RT because it will
> > +	 * indirectly acquire sleeping locks. The same is
> > +	 * true if the current process has a mutex enqueued
> > +	 * (blocked on a PI chain).
> >  	 *
> >  	 * call_rcu() will schedule __put_task_struct_rcu_cb()
> >  	 * to be called in process context.
> >  	 *
> > +	 * In !RT, it is safe to call __put_task_struct()
> > +	 * from atomic context, but we still need to delay
> > +	 * cleanup for a grace period to accommodate
> > +	 * tryget_task_struct() callers.
> > +	 *
> >  	 * __put_task_struct() is called when
> >  	 * refcount_dec_and_test(&t->usage) succeeds.
> >  	 *
> > @@ -164,7 +170,7 @@ DEFINE_FREE(put_task, struct task_struct *, if (_T) put_task_struct(_T))
> >  static inline void put_task_struct_many(struct task_struct *t, int nr)
> >  {
> >  	if (refcount_sub_and_test(nr, &t->usage))
> > -		__put_task_struct(t);
> > +		call_rcu(&t->rcu, __put_task_struct_rcu_cb);
> >  }
> >  
> >  void put_task_struct_rcu_user(struct task_struct *task);
> > 
> > ---
> > base-commit: 7fd2df204f342fc17d1a0bfcd474b24232fb0f32
> > change-id: 20260508-put-task-struct-many-5b5b2f4ae174
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > -- 
> > Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-10 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-08 14:02 [PATCH] sched/task: always defer 'struct task_struct' destruction via RCU Alice Ryhl
2026-05-08 20:01 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-05-09  7:18   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-05-08 21:38 ` Andrea Righi
2026-05-10 13:41   ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2026-05-10 18:36     ` Andrea Righi

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