From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>,
io-uring@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/task: always defer 'struct task_struct' destruction via RCU
Date: Sun, 10 May 2026 13:41:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <agCLBxHEUqWIepx8@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af5XymUlyE0Jsi2t@gpd4>
On Fri, May 08, 2026 at 11:38:18PM +0200, Andrea Righi wrote:
> Hi Alice,
>
> On Fri, May 08, 2026 at 02:02:45PM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > The sched/task.h header file currently exposes a tryget_task_struct()
> > function, but it is very risky to use it: If the last refcount of the
> > task is dropped using put_task_struct_many(), then the task is freed
> > right away without an RCU grace period.
> >
> > This means that if the kernel contains a code path anywhere such that
> > the last refcount of a task may be dropped with put_task_struct_many(),
> > and it also contains a code path anywhere that tries to stash a task
> > pointer under rcu and use tryget_task_struct() on it, then if they ever
> > execute on the same 'struct task_struct', it results in a
> > use-after-free.
> >
> > The above applies even if the RCU user drops its own task reference with
> > put_task_struct(), because if that is not the last reference, then it's
> > possible for another thread to invoke put_task_struct_many() and free
> > the task less than a grace period after the RCU user called
> > put_task_struct().
> >
> > There does not appear to be an actual problem in the kernel tree right
> > now because there are no in-tree users of put_task_struct_many() where
> > refcount_sub_and_test() might return 'true'. Io-uring invokes the
> > function from task work while the task is still running, so it will not
> > decrement it all the way to zero. (Note that if I'm wrong about this,
> > then it's probably possible to trigger UAF by combining this codepath in
> > io-uring with the tryget_task_struct() call in sched-ext.)
> >
> > However, the current situation is fragile and error-prone.
> > - If you look at put_task_struct_many() in isolation, it looks like it
> > would be okay to call it in a situation where refcount_sub_and_test()
> > might return 'true'.
> > - Similarly, if you look at tryget_task_struct(), you would assume that
> > you are allowed to call this method for a grace period after 'users'
> > hitting zero. (If not, why does it exist?)
> > But if two different kernel developers anywhere in the kernel make these
> > conflicting assumptions at any point in the future, then the combination
> > of their code may lead to a use-after-free if there is any way for them
> > to interact via the same 'struct task_struct'.
> >
> > Thus, as a defensive measure, we should either make
> > put_task_struct_many() use call_rcu(), or we should delete
> > tryget_task_struct(). This patch suggests the former because it does not
> > change anything for any callers that exist today. (As argued previously,
> > the body of the 'if' statement is dead code in the kernel today.)
> >
> > The comment in put_task_struct() is also updated so that nobody changes
> > its implementation to only use call_rcu() under PREEMPT_RT in the
> > future. The current comment suggests that would be a legal change, but
> > it is similarly incompatible with anyone using tryget_task_struct().
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
> > ---
> > Including sched-ext and io-uring in the cc list as they are the only
> > users of tryget_task_struct() and put_task_struct_many() respectively.
>
> For sched_ext I think we should be already protected by scx_tasks_lock.
>
> From kernel/sched/core.c:
>
> finish_task_switch():
> if (prev_state == TASK_DEAD) {
> prev->sched_class->task_dead(prev);
> sched_ext_dead(prev);
> cgroup_task_dead(prev);
> put_task_stack(prev);
> ...
> put_task_struct_rcu_user(prev);
> }
>
> And sched_ext_dead() in kernel/sched/ext.c:
>
> scoped_guard(raw_spinlock_irqsave, &scx_tasks_lock) {
> list_del_init(&p->scx.tasks_node);
> ...
> }
>
> Now on the sched_ext iter side:
>
> scx_task_iter_start(); /* takes scx_tasks_lock */
> while ((p = scx_task_iter_next_locked()))
> if (!tryget_task_struct(p)) /* still under scx_tasks_lock */
> ...
>
> So, the locking gives us the invariant: while the iter holds scx_tasks_lock and
> observes p on the list, sched_ext_dead(p) cannot have completed.
Correct my if I'm wrong, but this sounds like you don't need the tryget
variant. The 'users' counter is guaranteed be non-zero for one grace
period after put_task_struct_rcu_user(prev).
Alice
> And the css_task_iter paths have the analogous ordering.
>
> That said, I think this patch still makes sense to provide a consistent
> semantics between put_task_struct() and put_task_struct_many(), as mentioned by
> Sebastian. So, maybe reword the message around consistency rather than UAF?
>
> Thanks,
> -Andrea
>
> > ---
> > include/linux/sched/task.h | 24 +++++++++++++++---------
> > 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/sched/task.h b/include/linux/sched/task.h
> > index 41ed884cffc9..da2fbd17b676 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/sched/task.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/sched/task.h
> > @@ -131,19 +131,25 @@ static inline void put_task_struct(struct task_struct *t)
> > return;
> >
> > /*
> > - * Under PREEMPT_RT, we can't call __put_task_struct
> > - * in atomic context because it will indirectly
> > - * acquire sleeping locks. The same is true if the
> > - * current process has a mutex enqueued (blocked on
> > - * a PI chain).
> > + * Delay __put_task_struct() for one grace period so
> > + * that tryget_task_struct() may be used for one
> > + * grace period after any call to put_task_struct().
> > *
> > - * In !RT, it is always safe to call __put_task_struct().
> > - * Though, in order to simplify the code, resort to the
> > - * deferred call too.
> > + * This also has the benefit of making it legal to
> > + * call put_task_struct() in atomic context. We
> > + * can't do that under PREEMPT_RT because it will
> > + * indirectly acquire sleeping locks. The same is
> > + * true if the current process has a mutex enqueued
> > + * (blocked on a PI chain).
> > *
> > * call_rcu() will schedule __put_task_struct_rcu_cb()
> > * to be called in process context.
> > *
> > + * In !RT, it is safe to call __put_task_struct()
> > + * from atomic context, but we still need to delay
> > + * cleanup for a grace period to accommodate
> > + * tryget_task_struct() callers.
> > + *
> > * __put_task_struct() is called when
> > * refcount_dec_and_test(&t->usage) succeeds.
> > *
> > @@ -164,7 +170,7 @@ DEFINE_FREE(put_task, struct task_struct *, if (_T) put_task_struct(_T))
> > static inline void put_task_struct_many(struct task_struct *t, int nr)
> > {
> > if (refcount_sub_and_test(nr, &t->usage))
> > - __put_task_struct(t);
> > + call_rcu(&t->rcu, __put_task_struct_rcu_cb);
> > }
> >
> > void put_task_struct_rcu_user(struct task_struct *task);
> >
> > ---
> > base-commit: 7fd2df204f342fc17d1a0bfcd474b24232fb0f32
> > change-id: 20260508-put-task-struct-many-5b5b2f4ae174
> >
> > Best regards,
> > --
> > Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-10 13:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-08 14:02 [PATCH] sched/task: always defer 'struct task_struct' destruction via RCU Alice Ryhl
2026-05-08 20:01 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-05-09 7:18 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-05-08 21:38 ` Andrea Righi
2026-05-10 13:41 ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2026-05-10 18:36 ` Andrea Righi
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