Re: Link trailers revisited (was Re: [GIT PULL] io_uring fix for 6.17-rc5)

[Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>]

On 9/9/25 8:48 AM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 9/9/25 16:42, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 08:35:18AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>> On a global scale, that's quite a number of saved mailing list archive searches.
>>>>
>>>> +1 FWIW. I also started slapping the links on all patches in a series,
>>>> even if we apply with a merge commit. I don't know of a good way with
>>>> git to "get to the first parent merge" so scanning the history to find
>>>> the link in the cover letter was annoying me :(
>>>
>>> Like I've tried to argue, I find them useful too. But after this whole
>>> mess of a thread, I killed -l from my scripts. I do think it's a mistake
>>> and it seems like the only reason to remove them is that Linus expects
>>> to find something at the end of the link rainbow and is often
>>> disappointed, and that annoys him enough to rant about it.
>>>
>>> I know some folks downstream of me on the io_uring side find them useful
>>> too, because they've asked me several times to please remember to ensure
>>> my own self-applied patches have the link as well. For those, I tend to
>>> pick or add them locally rather than use b4 for it, which is why they've
>>> never had links.
>>>
>>> As far as I can tell, only two things have been established here:
>>>
>>> 1) Linus hates the Link tags, except if they have extra information
>>> 2) Lots of other folks find them useful
>>>
>>> and hence we're at a solid deadlock here.
>>
>> I did suggest that provenance links use the patch.msgid.link subdomain. This
> 
> Yes, and the PR that started this thread had a normal lore link. Would it
> have been different with a patch.msgid.link as perhaps Linus would not try
> opening it and become disappointed?
> You did kinda ask that early in the thread but then the conversation went in
> different directions.

I think we all know the answer to that one - it would've been EXACTLY
the same outcome. Not to put words in Linus' mouth, but it's not the
name of the tag that he finds repulsive, it's the very fact that a link
is there and it isn't useful _to him_.

-- 
Jens Axboe