From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD67F1D318A; Wed, 9 Oct 2024 17:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1728494391; cv=none; b=NQeaod9yPELJmSgcss+nhsHnW1c2F+9cOomUGU6UNmEHAmKX/nK9aGsIJTHog4CQ5XB/MBh0TGrK41c/YECaTm5F+d89JoUoDq1uh1sRiFx/PXkY7QWZOuTwCtXILV06TxwS9sTFIsOSVapT9c9urCp3qM02lZTL3xIqq06redE= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1728494391; c=relaxed/simple; bh=hPH7G999uoO6gpSkMFl/hA410eyuX3sIBYo6HYKqfj4=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=V5UTBi0+VXjoqhoQHjiM28Ebml3PvNiUBVclt0/AGtD4RPdjM5ZlWS3Km0KJPoT41fNDl/ONnUKDms70SJhiywgVm4D6sQ2BGSZB/TpMGxhKIRadQyPL6vjjUdmSywUJ7S9Xs9gE6dpuEz6Z/rKv6ksSorh5di0TzYdu0Pv8MoM= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=pnxCgdPo; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="pnxCgdPo" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C1569C4CEC3; Wed, 9 Oct 2024 17:19:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1728494391; bh=hPH7G999uoO6gpSkMFl/hA410eyuX3sIBYo6HYKqfj4=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=pnxCgdPo9fM8oAewqR2se2etX4nRioMzy18Qh/QTocO+QD65YPCQmbJyr/4wQrWUt aAgfRrUVCQIJ8M4q8C7FZGLQO7nPp375F9HVz+uxfzGJzEjPHoVjDzBrp7k331lkZ6 yiphG77fKetkKWMNGknCOXej/BOUPS99sAdBMAmMKWYeEmpDdqCyoJZhe9ynNx7mGC KOfwzRIO4kCFrHScC5zkGIIqERy+vVzgLzKTcp9NRlrgobPaJAYm+V6PNFkVH63v4J U8S51d/M7JpscEiUh78otxc7ptpn1+VlWu8PylotPSHqfNXkNJ49eih92gRT42LxUQ sRbCUtXpYOEoA== Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 11:19:50 -0600 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: io-uring@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/15] io_uring zero copy rx Content-Language: en-US To: Mina Almasry , David Wei Cc: io-uring@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe , Pavel Begunkov , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jesper Dangaard Brouer References: <20241007221603.1703699-1-dw@davidwei.uk> From: David Ahern In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/9/24 10:55 AM, Mina Almasry wrote: > > I've been thinking about this a bit, and I hope this feedback isn't > too late, but I think your work may be useful for users not using > io_uring. I.e. zero copy to host memory that is not dependent on page > aligned MSS sizing. I.e. AF_XDP zerocopy but using the TCP stack. I disagree with this request; AF_XDP by definition is bypassing the kernel stack.