From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Jeremy Allison <[email protected]>
Cc: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
Stefan Metzmacher <[email protected]>,
io-uring <[email protected]>,
Samba Technical <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Data Corruption bug with Samba's vfs_iouring and Linux 5.6.7/5.7rc3
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 12:58:07 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200507185507.GF25085@jeremy-acer>
On 5/7/20 12:55 PM, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 12:35:42PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 5/7/20 12:31 PM, Jeremy Allison wrote:
>>>
>>> Look at how quickly someone spotted disk corruption
>>> because of the change in userspace-visible behavior
>>> of the io_uring interface. We only shipped that code
>>> 03 March 2020 and someone *already* found it.
>>
>> I _think_ that will only happen on regular files if you use RWF_NOWAIT
>> or similar, for regular blocking it should not happen. So I don't think
>> you're at risk there, though I do think that anyone should write
>> applications with short IOs in mind or they will run into surprises down
>> the line. Should have been more clear!
>
> Well we definitely considered short IOs writing the
> server code, but as the protocol allows that to be
> visible to the clients (in fact it has explicit
> fields meant to deal with it) it wasn't considered
> vital to hide them from clients.
Yes, and in case my reply wasn't totally clear, it was more of a general
observation, not directed at Samba specifically!
> We'll certainly fix up short reads for the iouring
> module, but it's less clear we should mess with
> our existing blocking threaded pread/pwrite code
> to deal with them. Possibly goes into the bucket
> of "belt and braces, couldn't possibly hurt" :-).
Agree, belts and suspenders for the regular pread/pwrite, that's a fair
position.
> Thanks for the clarification !
Thanks for getting this fleshed out! Impressed with the speed at which
we got to the bottom of this.
--
Jens Axboe
prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-07 18:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-05 10:04 Data Corruption bug with Samba's vfs_iouring and Linux 5.6.7/5.7rc3 Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-05 14:41 ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-05 15:44 ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-05 16:53 ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-05 17:39 ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-05 17:48 ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-05 17:50 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <[email protected]>
2020-05-06 10:33 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-06 10:41 ` Stefan Metzmacher
[not found] ` <[email protected]>
2020-05-06 14:08 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-06 14:43 ` Andreas Schneider
2020-05-06 14:46 ` Andreas Schneider
2020-05-06 15:06 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-06 17:03 ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-06 17:13 ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-06 18:01 ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-05 20:19 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-06 12:55 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-05-06 15:20 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-05-06 15:42 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-05-07 16:43 ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-07 16:48 ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-07 16:50 ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-07 18:31 ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-07 18:35 ` Jens Axboe
2020-05-07 18:55 ` Jeremy Allison
2020-05-07 18:58 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
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