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From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected],
	Andrew Morton <[email protected]>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <[email protected]>,
	David Hildenbrand <[email protected]>,
	Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/6] io_uring: rsrc: avoid use of vmas parameter in pin_user_pages()
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 10:59:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 4/19/23 10:35?AM, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 4/18/23 9:49?AM, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>> We are shortly to remove pin_user_pages(), and instead perform the required
>> VMA checks ourselves. In most cases there will be a single VMA so this
>> should caues no undue impact on an already slow path.
>>
>> Doing this eliminates the one instance of vmas being used by
>> pin_user_pages().
> 
> First up, please don't just send single patches from a series. It's
> really annoying when you are trying to get the full picture. Just CC the
> whole series, so reviews don't have to look it up separately.
> 
> So when you're doing a respin for what I'll mention below and the issue
> that David found, please don't just show us patch 4+5 of the series.

I'll reply here too rather than keep some of this conversaion
out-of-band.

I don't necessarily think that making io buffer registration dumber and
less efficient by needing a separate vma lookup after the fact is a huge
deal, as I would imagine most workloads register buffers at setup time
and then don't change them. But if people do switch sets at runtime,
it's not necessarily a slow path. That said, I suspect the other bits
that we do in here, like the GUP, is going to dominate the overhead
anyway.

My main question is, why don't we just have a __pin_user_pages or
something helper that still takes the vmas argument, and drop it from
pin_user_pages() only? That'd still allow the cleanup of the other users
that don't care about the vma at all, while retaining the bundled
functionality for the case/cases that do? That would avoid needing
explicit vma iteration in io_uring.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-19 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <[email protected]>
2023-04-18 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] io_uring: rsrc: avoid use of vmas parameter in pin_user_pages() Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-18 15:55   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-18 15:56     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-18 16:25     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-19 16:35   ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-19 16:59     ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2023-04-19 17:23       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-19 17:35         ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-19 17:47           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-19 17:51             ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-19 18:18               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-19 18:22                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-19 18:50                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-19 18:23                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-19 18:24                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-19 18:35                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-19 18:45                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-19 23:22                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-20 13:57                           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-20 13:36                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-20 14:19                         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-20 15:31                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-04-19 20:15                     ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-19 20:18                       ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-20 13:37                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-19 17:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-04-18 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] mm/gup: remove vmas parameter from pin_user_pages() Lorenzo Stoakes

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