From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: David Laight <[email protected]>,
'Linus Torvalds' <[email protected]>,
Dave Chinner <[email protected]>
Cc: Stefan Metzmacher <[email protected]>,
linux-fsdevel <[email protected]>,
Linux API Mailing List <[email protected]>,
io-uring <[email protected]>,
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
Al Viro <[email protected]>,
Samba Technical <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: copy on write for splice() from file to pipe?
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 15:51:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
On 2/10/23 3:41?PM, David Laight wrote:
> From: Linus Torvalds
>> Sent: 10 February 2023 17:24
> ...
>> And when it comes to networking, in general things like TCP checksums
>> etc should be ok even with data that isn't stable. When doing things
>> by hand, networking should always use the "copy-and-checksum"
>> functions that do the checksum while copying (so even if the source
>> data changes, the checksum is going to be the checksum for the data
>> that was copied).
>>
>> And in many (most?) smarter network cards, the card itself does the
>> checksum, again on the data as it is transferred from memory.
>>
>> So it's not like "networking needs a stable source" is some really
>> _fundamental_ requirement for things like that to work.
>
> It is also worth remembering that TCP needs to be able
> to retransmit the data and a much later time.
> So the application must not change the data until it has
> been acked by the remote system.
This has been covered, and:
> I don't think io_uring has any way to indicate anything
> other than 'the data has been accepted by the socket'.
This is wrong and has also been covered.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-10 22:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-09 13:55 copy on write for splice() from file to pipe? Stefan Metzmacher
2023-02-09 14:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-09 14:29 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2023-02-09 16:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-09 19:17 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2023-02-09 19:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-09 19:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-09 20:33 ` Jeremy Allison
2023-02-10 20:45 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2023-02-10 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 2:16 ` Dave Chinner
2023-02-10 4:06 ` Dave Chinner
2023-02-10 4:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-10 6:57 ` Dave Chinner
2023-02-10 15:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-02-10 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 17:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-02-10 18:19 ` Jeremy Allison
2023-02-10 19:29 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2023-02-10 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 19:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-02-10 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 19:27 ` Jeremy Allison
2023-02-10 19:42 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2023-02-10 19:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 19:54 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2023-02-10 19:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-13 9:07 ` Herbert Xu
2023-02-10 19:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-02-10 20:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 20:32 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-10 20:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 20:39 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-10 20:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 20:50 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-10 21:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-02-10 21:27 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-10 21:51 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-10 22:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 22:16 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-10 22:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 22:25 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-10 22:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 22:51 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-11 3:18 ` Ming Lei
2023-02-11 6:17 ` Ming Lei
2023-02-11 14:13 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-11 15:05 ` Ming Lei
2023-02-11 15:33 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-11 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-12 2:46 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-10 4:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 6:19 ` Dave Chinner
2023-02-10 17:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-10 17:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-13 9:28 ` Herbert Xu
2023-02-10 22:41 ` David Laight
2023-02-10 22:51 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2023-02-13 9:30 ` Herbert Xu
2023-02-13 9:25 ` Herbert Xu
2023-02-13 18:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-02-14 1:22 ` Herbert Xu
2023-02-17 23:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-02-20 4:54 ` Herbert Xu
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