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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Christian Dietrich <[email protected]>,
	io-uring <[email protected]>
Cc: Horst Schirmeier <[email protected]>,
	"Franz-B. Tuneke" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Programming model for io_uring + eBPF
Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 16:13:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 5/5/21 5:13 PM, Christian Dietrich wrote:
> Christian Dietrich <[email protected]> [05. May 2021]:
> 
>> So perhaps, we would do something like
>>
>>     // alloc 3 groups
>>     io_uring_register(fd, REGISTER_SYNCHRONIZATION_GROUPS, 3);
>>
>>     // submit a synchronized SQE
>>     sqe->flags |= IOSQE_SYNCHRONIZE;
>>     sqe->synchronize_group = 1;     // could probably be restricted to uint8_t.
>>
>> When looking at this, this could generally be a nice feature to have
>> with SQEs, or? Hereby, the user could insert all of his SQEs and they
>> would run sequentially. In contrast to SQE linking, the order of SQEs
>> would not be determined, which might be beneficial at some point.
> 
> I was thinking further about this statement: "Performing (optional)
> serialization of eBPF-SQEs is similar to SQE linking".
> 
> If we would want to implement the above interface of synchronization
> groups, it could be done without taking locks but by fixing the
> execution order at submit time. Thereby, synchronization groups would
> become a form of "implicit SQE linking".
> 
> The following SQE would become: Append this SQE to the SQE-link chain
> with the name '1'. If the link chain has completed, start a new one.
> Thereby, the user could add an SQE to an existing link chain, even other
> SQEs are already submitted.
> 
>>     sqe->flags |= IOSQE_SYNCHRONIZE;
>>     sqe->synchronize_group = 1;     // could probably be restricted to uint8_t.
> 
> Implementation wise, we would hold a pointer to the last element of the
> implicitly generated link chain.
Such things go really horribly with performant APIs as io_uring, even
if not used. Just see IOSQE_IO_DRAIN, it maybe almost never used but
still in the hot path.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-07 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <[email protected]>
     [not found] ` <[email protected]>
     [not found]   ` <[email protected]>
2021-04-16 15:49     ` [RFC] Programming model for io_uring + eBPF Pavel Begunkov
2021-04-20 16:35       ` Christian Dietrich
2021-04-23 15:34         ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-04-29 13:27           ` Christian Dietrich
2021-05-01  9:49             ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-05 12:57               ` Christian Dietrich
2021-05-05 16:13                 ` Christian Dietrich
2021-05-07 15:13                   ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2021-05-12 11:20                     ` Christian Dietrich
2021-05-18 14:39                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-19 16:55                         ` Christian Dietrich
2021-05-20 11:14                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-20 15:01                             ` Christian Dietrich
2021-05-21 10:27                               ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-27 11:12                                 ` Christian Dietrich
2021-06-02 10:47                                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-07 15:10                 ` Pavel Begunkov

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