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From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Olivier Langlois <[email protected]>,
	Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] abstract napi tracking strategy
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 12:33:39 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 8/13/24 10:44 AM, Olivier Langlois wrote:
> the actual napi tracking strategy is inducing a non-negligeable overhead.
> Everytime a multishot poll is triggered or any poll armed, if the napi is
> enabled on the ring a lookup is performed to either add a new napi id into
> the napi_list or its timeout value is updated.
> 
> For many scenarios, this is overkill as the napi id list will be pretty
> much static most of the time. To address this common scenario, a new
> abstraction has been created following the common Linux kernel idiom of
> creating an abstract interface with a struct filled with function pointers.
> 
> Creating an alternate napi tracking strategy is therefore made in 2 phases.
> 
> 1. Introduce the io_napi_tracking_ops interface
> 2. Implement a static napi tracking by defining a new io_napi_tracking_ops

I don't think we should create ops for this, unless there's a strict
need to do so. Indirect function calls aren't cheap, and the CPU side
mitigations for security issues made them worse.

You're not wrong that ops is not an uncommon idiom in the kernel, but
it's a lot less prevalent as a solution than it used to. Exactly because
of the above reasons.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-13 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-13 16:44 [PATCH 0/2] abstract napi tracking strategy Olivier Langlois
2024-08-13 17:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] io_uring/napi: Introduce io_napi_tracking_ops Olivier Langlois
2024-08-14 11:44   ` Olivier Langlois
2024-08-14 13:17     ` Jens Axboe
2024-08-13 17:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] io_uring/napi: add static napi tracking strategy Olivier Langlois
2024-08-13 18:33 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2024-08-13 21:25   ` [PATCH 0/2] abstract " Olivier Langlois
2024-08-13 21:44     ` Jens Axboe
2024-08-15 22:17       ` Olivier Langlois
2024-08-15 22:44         ` Olivier Langlois
2024-08-16 14:26           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-09-16 18:29             ` Olivier Langlois
2024-08-13 22:36     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-14 13:28       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13 21:34   ` Olivier Langlois
2024-08-13 21:45     ` Jens Axboe

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