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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Stefan Metzmacher <metze@samba.org>,
	io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: SOCKET_URING_OP_GETSOCKOPT SOL_SOCKET restriction
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 10:59:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c97c1d57-ab3c-49a0-8c08-7160ad66ea88@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250328-monumental-taupe-malamute-d1c54b@leitao>

On 3/28/25 18:22, Breno Leitao wrote:
> Hello Pavel,
> 
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 05:21:06PM +0000, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 3/28/25 17:18, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>> On 3/28/25 16:34, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>> On 3/28/25 9:02 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>> On 3/28/25 14:30, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/28/25 8:27 AM, Stefan Metzmacher wrote:
>>> I remember Breno looking at several different options.
>>>
>>> Breno, can you remind me, why can't we convert ->getsockopt to
>>> take a normal kernel ptr for length while passing a user ptr
>>> for value as before?
>>
>> Similar to this:
>>
>> getsockopt_syscall(void __user *len_uptr) {
>> 	int klen;
>>
>> 	copy_from_user(&klen, len_uptr);
>> 	->getsockopt(&klen);
>> 	copy_to_user(len_uptr, &klen);
>> }
> 
> We have a few limitations if I remember correct:
> 
> getsockopt() callback expects __user pointers:
> 
> 	int             (*getsockopt)(struct socket *sock, int level,
> 			int optname, char __user *optval, int __user *optlen);
> 
> 
> So, you cannot copy the memory content and call ->getsockopt() with
> kernel memory.

Right, I'm rather asking about changing the callback to pass
a kernel pointer and make the caller to do the copy_to_user
if needed.

> A solution was to use sockptr, as done by setsockopt(), but, that was
> discouraged.
> 
> Another important thing, some getsockopt() callback changes the pointer,
> so, doing copy_to_user() directly in the getsocktopt callback, which
> would break your approach above.

Do you mean writing to it? That's why the snippet passes a kernel
_pointer_ to length. Did I misunderstand you?

> I understand that the next steps here are:
> 
>   1) Make getsockopt() operate with either userspace or kernel buffer.
>      a) This buffer needs will be written and read on both side. I.e, you
>      pass data in the buffer from userspace to kernel space, and kernel
>      will overwrite that buffer in kernelspace.
> 
>      In other words, this is a read-write buffer (which is not something
>      we have in iovec IIRC).
> 
>   2) Call the same callbacks from io_uring subsystem using kernel memory
> 
>   3) Regular syscalls will continue to user userspace memory.
> 

-- 
Pavel Begunkov


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-29 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-28 14:27 SOCKET_URING_OP_GETSOCKOPT SOL_SOCKET restriction Stefan Metzmacher
2025-03-28 14:30 ` Jens Axboe
2025-03-28 15:02   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2025-03-28 15:08     ` Stefan Metzmacher
2025-03-28 16:24     ` Breno Leitao
2025-03-28 15:02   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-28 15:03     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-28 16:34     ` Jens Axboe
2025-03-28 17:18       ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-28 17:21         ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-28 18:22           ` Breno Leitao
2025-03-29 10:59             ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-03-28 19:41           ` Stefan Metzmacher

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