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From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: "Matias Bjørling" <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
	"Damien Le Moal" <[email protected]>
Cc: Kanchan Joshi <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] io_uring: add support for zone-append
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:18:24 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 6/19/20 5:15 AM, Matias Bjørling wrote:
> On 19/06/2020 11.41, [email protected] wrote:
>> Jens,
>>
>> Would you have time to answer a question below in this thread?
>>
>> On 18.06.2020 11:11, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On 18.06.2020 08:47, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>>> On 2020/06/18 17:35, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On 18.06.2020 07:39, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020/06/18 2:27, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
>>>>>>> From: Selvakumar S <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Introduce three new opcodes for zone-append -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   IORING_OP_ZONE_APPEND     : non-vectord, similiar to 
>>>>>>> IORING_OP_WRITE
>>>>>>>   IORING_OP_ZONE_APPENDV    : vectored, similar to IORING_OP_WRITEV
>>>>>>>   IORING_OP_ZONE_APPEND_FIXED : append using fixed-buffers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Repurpose cqe->flags to return zone-relative offset.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: SelvaKumar S <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Kanchan Joshi <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Nitesh Shetty <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Javier Gonzalez <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> fs/io_uring.c                 | 72 
>>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>>>>>>> include/uapi/linux/io_uring.h |  8 ++++-
>>>>>>> 2 files changed, 77 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/fs/io_uring.c b/fs/io_uring.c
>>>>>>> index 155f3d8..c14c873 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/fs/io_uring.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/fs/io_uring.c
>>>>>>> @@ -649,6 +649,10 @@ struct io_kiocb {
>>>>>>>     unsigned long        fsize;
>>>>>>>     u64            user_data;
>>>>>>>     u32            result;
>>>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ZONED
>>>>>>> +    /* zone-relative offset for append, in bytes */
>>>>>>> +    u32            append_offset;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this can overflow. u64 is needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> We chose to do it this way to start with because struct io_uring_cqe
>>>>> only has space for u32 when we reuse the flags.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can of course create a new cqe structure, but that will come with
>>>>> larger changes to io_uring for supporting append.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you believe this is a better approach?
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that zone size are 32 bits in the kernel, as a number 
>>>> of sectors.
>>>> So any device that has a zone size smaller or equal to 2^31 512B 
>>>> sectors can be
>>>> accepted. Using a zone relative offset in bytes for returning zone 
>>>> append result
>>>> is OK-ish, but to match the kernel supported range of possible zone 
>>>> size, you
>>>> need 31+9 bits... 32 does not cut it.
>>>
>>> Agree. Our initial assumption was that u32 would cover current zone size
>>> requirements, but if this is a no-go, we will take the longer path.
>>
>> Converting to u64 will require a new version of io_uring_cqe, where we
>> extend at least 32 bits. I believe this will need a whole new allocation
>> and probably ioctl().
>>
>> Is this an acceptable change for you? We will of course add support for
>> liburing when we agree on the right way to do this.
> 
> I took a quick look at the code. No expert, but why not use the existing 
> userdata variable? use the lowest bits (40 bits) for the Zone Starting 
> LBA, and use the highest (24 bits) as index into the completion data 
> structure?
> 
> If you want to pass the memory address (same as what fio does) for the 
> data structure used for completion, one may also play some tricks by 
> using a relative memory address to the data structure. For example, the 
> x86_64 architecture uses 48 address bits for its memory addresses. With 
> 24 bit, one can allocate the completion entries in a 32MB memory range, 
> and then use base_address + index to get back to the completion data 
> structure specified in the sqe.

For any current request, sqe->user_data is just provided back as
cqe->user_data. This would make these requests behave differently
from everything else in that sense, which seems very confusing to me
if I was an application writer.

But generally I do agree with you, there are lots of ways to make
< 64-bit work as a tag without losing anything or having to jump
through hoops to do so. The lack of consistency introduced by having
zone append work differently is ugly, though.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-19 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20200617172653epcas5p488de50090415eb802e62acc0e23d8812@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2020-06-17 17:23 ` [PATCH 0/3] zone-append support in aio and io-uring Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200617172702epcas5p4dbf4729d31d9a85ab1d261d04f238e61@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2020-06-17 17:23     ` [PATCH 1/3] fs,block: Introduce IOCB_ZONE_APPEND and direct-io handling Kanchan Joshi
2020-06-17 19:02       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-06-18  7:16       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-18 18:35         ` Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200617172706epcas5p4dcbc164063f58bad95b211b9d6dfbfa9@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2020-06-17 17:23     ` [PATCH 2/3] aio: add support for zone-append Kanchan Joshi
2020-06-18  7:33       ` Damien Le Moal
     [not found]   ` <CGME20200617172713epcas5p352f2907a12bd4ee3c97be1c7d8e1569e@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2020-06-17 17:23     ` [PATCH 3/3] io_uring: " Kanchan Joshi
2020-06-17 18:55       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-06-18  7:39       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-18  8:35         ` [email protected]
2020-06-18  8:47           ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-18  9:11             ` [email protected]
2020-06-19  9:41               ` [email protected]
2020-06-19 11:15                 ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-19 14:18                   ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2020-06-19 15:14                     ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-19 15:20                       ` Jens Axboe
2020-06-19 15:40                         ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-19 15:44                           ` Jens Axboe
2020-06-21 18:55                             ` [email protected]
2020-06-19 14:15                 ` Jens Axboe
2020-06-19 14:59                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-06-19 15:02                     ` Jens Axboe
2020-06-21 18:52                       ` [email protected]
2020-06-17 17:42   ` [PATCH 0/3] zone-append support in aio and io-uring Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-18  6:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-18  8:29     ` Javier González
2020-06-18 17:52     ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-06-19  3:08       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-19  7:56       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-18  8:04   ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-18  8:27     ` Javier González
2020-06-18  8:32       ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-18  8:39         ` Javier González
2020-06-18  8:46           ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-18 14:16     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-18 19:21     ` Kanchan Joshi
2020-06-18 20:04       ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-19  1:03         ` Damien Le Moal

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