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From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Matthew Wilcox <[email protected]>,
	Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected], Kanchan Joshi <[email protected]>,
	Javier Gonzalez <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Remove kiocb ki_complete
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:53:07 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 7/9/20 7:32 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 02:26:11PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 12:10:36PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 11:17:05AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> I really don't like this series at all.  If saves a single pointer
>>>> but introduces a complicated machinery that just doesn't follow any
>>>> natural flow.  And there doesn't seem to be any good reason for it to
>>>> start with.
>>>
>>> Jens doesn't want the kiocb to grow beyond a single cacheline, and we
>>> want the ability to set the loff_t in userspace for an appending write,
>>> so the plan was to replace the ki_complete member in kiocb with an
>>> loff_t __user *ki_posp.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's worth worrying about growing kiocb, personally,
>>> but this seemed like the easiest way to make room for a new pointer.
>>
>> The user offset pointer has absolutely no business in the the kiocb
>> itself - it is a io_uring concept which needs to go into the io_kiocb,
>> which has 14 bytes left in the last cache line in my build.  It would
>> fit in very well there right next to the result and user pointer.
> 
> I agree.  Jens doesn't.

Stop putting words in my mouth, especially when they are totally untrue.

I was opposed to growing struct io_rw in io_uring, which is where the
extra append variable belonds, beyond a cacheline. You mentioned you
could probably shave some bits out of struct kiocb, which is how this
completion handling business came about. If kiocb was shrunk, then io_rw
has room for the needed variable.

At no point have I said that whatever we need to shove in there for
io_uring should be in the kiocb, that would not make any sense. I'm
just opposed to growing the per-op data field in io_kiocb beyond
a cacheline. And that's especially true for something like append
writes, which I don't consider super interesting.


-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-09 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-08 22:26 [PATCH 0/2] Remove kiocb ki_complete Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2020-07-08 22:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs: Abstract calling the kiocb completion function Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2020-07-08 22:37   ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-08 22:40     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-08 22:50       ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-08 22:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] fs: Remove kiocb->ki_complete Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2020-07-08 22:38   ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-09  3:25   ` Jens Axboe
2020-07-09  5:23   ` kernel test robot
2020-07-08 22:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] Remove kiocb ki_complete Jens Axboe
2020-07-09 10:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-09 11:10   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-09 13:26     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-09 13:32       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-09 13:53         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2020-07-09 13:37       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-09 13:43         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-09 13:49           ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-09 13:53             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-09 13:59               ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-09 13:55       ` Jens Axboe

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