From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <[email protected]>,
Christoph Hellwig <[email protected]>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <[email protected]>,
Bernd Schubert <[email protected]>,
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fs: add FMODE_DIO_PARALLEL_WRITE flag
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 07:15:49 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230414153612.GB360881@frogsfrogsfrogs>
On 4/14/23 9:36?AM, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 10:11:28PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 09:40:29AM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>>> fuse_direct_write_iter():
>>>
>>> bool exclusive_lock =
>>> !(ff->open_flags & FOPEN_PARALLEL_DIRECT_WRITES) ||
>>> iocb->ki_flags & IOCB_APPEND ||
>>> fuse_direct_write_extending_i_size(iocb, from);
>>>
>>> If the write is size extending, then it will take the lock exclusive.
>>> OTOH, I guess that it would be unusual for lots of size extending
>>> writes to be done in parallel.
>>>
>>> What would be the effect of giving the FMODE_DIO_PARALLEL_WRITE hint
>>> and then still serializing the writes?
>>
>> I have no idea how this flags work, but XFS also takes i_rwsem
>> exclusively for appends, when the positions and size aren't aligned to
>> the block size, and a few other cases.
>
> IIUC uring wants to avoid the situation where someone sends 300 writes
> to the same file, all of which end up in background workers, and all of
> which then contend on exclusive i_rwsem. Hence it has some hashing
> scheme that executes io requests serially if they hash to the same value
> (which iirc is the inode number?) to prevent resource waste.
>
> This flag turns off that hashing behavior on the assumption that each of
> those 300 writes won't serialize on the other 299 writes, hence it's ok
> to start up 300 workers.
>
> (apologies for precoffee garbled response)
Yep, that is pretty much it. If all writes to that inode are serialized
by a lock on the fs side, then we'll get a lot of contention on that
mutex. And since, originally, nothing supported async writes, everything
would get punted to the io-wq workers. io_uring added per-inode hashing
for this, so that any punt to io-wq of a write would get serialized.
IOW, it's an efficiency thing, not a correctness thing.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-15 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-07 17:20 [PATCHSET for-next 0/2] Flag file systems as supporting parallel dio writes Jens Axboe
2023-03-07 17:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs: add FMODE_DIO_PARALLEL_WRITE flag Jens Axboe
2023-04-12 13:40 ` Bernd Schubert
2023-04-12 13:43 ` Bernd Schubert
2023-04-13 7:40 ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-04-13 9:25 ` Bernd Schubert
2023-04-14 5:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-14 15:36 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-04-15 13:15 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2023-04-18 12:42 ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-04-18 12:55 ` Bernd Schubert
2023-04-18 22:13 ` Dave Chinner
2023-04-19 1:28 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-16 5:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-19 1:29 ` Jens Axboe
2023-03-07 17:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] io_uring: avoid hashing O_DIRECT writes if the filesystem doesn't need it Jens Axboe
2023-03-15 17:40 ` [PATCHSET for-next 0/2] Flag file systems as supporting parallel dio writes Jens Axboe
2023-03-16 4:29 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-03-17 2:53 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-03 12:24 ` Christian Brauner
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