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From: David Laight <[email protected]>
To: 'David Ahern' <[email protected]>, Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	"Breno Leitao" <[email protected]>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 07:39:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

From: David Ahern
> Sent: 11 April 2023 16:28
....
> Christoph's patch set a few years back that removed set_fs broke the
> ability to do in-kernel ioctl and {s,g}setsockopt calls. I did not
> follow that change; was it a deliberate intent to not allow these
> in-kernel calls vs wanting to remove the set_fs? e.g., can we add a
> kioctl variant for in-kernel use of the APIs?

I think that was a side effect, and with no in-tree in-kernel
users (apart from limited calls in bpf) it was deemed acceptable.
(It is a PITA for any code trying to use SCTP in kernel.)

One problem is that not all sockopt calls pass the correct length.
And some of them can have very long buffers.
Not to mention the ones that are read-modify-write.

A plausible solution is to pass a 'fat pointer' that contains
some, or all, of:
	- A userspace buffer pointer.
	- A kernel buffer pointer.
	- The length supplied by the user.
	- The length of the kernel buffer.
	= The number of bytes to copy on completion.
For simple user requests the syscall entry/exit code
would copy the data to a short on-stack buffer.
Kernel users just pass the kernel address.
Odd requests can just use the user pointer.

Probably needs accessors that add in an offset.

It might also be that some of the problematic sockopt
were in decnet - now removed.

	David

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-04-12  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06 14:43 [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] net: wire up support for file_operations->uring_cmd() Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] net: add uring_cmd callback to UDP Breno Leitao
2023-04-11 12:54   ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-06 14:43 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] net: add uring_cmd callback to TCP Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 14:43 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] net: add uring_cmd callback to raw "protocol" Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 15:34 ` [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-06 15:59   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 18:16     ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-07  2:46       ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 12:00         ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-11 14:36           ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 14:41             ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 14:51               ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 14:54                 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:00                   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 15:06                     ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:24                       ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 15:28                         ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-12 13:53                           ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-12 14:28                             ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-13  0:02                               ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-13 14:24                                 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-13 14:45                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-13 14:57                                   ` David Laight
2023-04-18 13:23                                   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-18 19:41                                     ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-20 14:43                                       ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-20 16:48                                         ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-04-11 15:10               ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 15:17                 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-11 15:27                   ` David Ahern
2023-04-11 15:29                     ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-12  7:39                     ` David Laight [this message]
2023-04-06 16:41 ` Keith Busch
2023-04-06 16:49   ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-06 16:58   ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-06 16:57 ` [PATCH RFC] io_uring: Pass whole sqe to commands Breno Leitao
2023-04-07 18:51   ` Keith Busch
2023-04-11 12:22     ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-11 12:39       ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-13  2:56   ` Ming Lei
2023-04-13 16:47     ` Breno Leitao
2023-04-14  2:12       ` Ming Lei
2023-04-14 13:12         ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-14 13:59           ` Ming Lei
2023-04-14 14:56             ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-04-16  9:51               ` Ming Lei
2023-05-02  9:21 [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets Adrien Delorme
2023-05-02 13:03 ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-05-03 13:11   ` Adrien Delorme
2023-05-03 13:27     ` David Laight

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