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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Oleg Nesterov <[email protected]>, Tejun Heo <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	Andrew Morton <[email protected]>,
	Christian Brauner <[email protected]>,
	Tycho Andersen <[email protected]>,
	Thomas Gleixner <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], Julian Orth <[email protected]>,
	Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] kernel: rerun task_work while freezing in get_signal()
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:26:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 7/9/24 20:07, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> Hi Tejun,
> 
> Thanks for looking at this, can you review this V2 patch from Pavel?
> To me it makes sense even without 1/2 which I didn't even bother to
> read. At least as a simple workaround for now.

They are kind of separate but without 1/2 this patch creates
another infinite loop, even though it's harder to hit and
is io_uring specific.

  
> On 07/09, Tejun Heo wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 03:05:21PM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Either way I have no idea whether a cgroup_task_frozen() task should
>>>> react to task_work_add(TWA_SIGNAL) or not.
>>>>
>>>> Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst says
>>>>
>>>> 	Writing "1" to the file causes freezing of the cgroup and all
>>>> 	descendant cgroups. This means that all belonging processes will
>>>> 	be stopped and will not run until the cgroup will be explicitly
>>>> 	unfrozen.
>>>>
>>>> AFAICS this is not accurate, they can run but can't return to user-mode.
>>>> So I guess task_work_run() is fine.
>>>
>>> IIUC it's a user facing doc, so maybe it's accurate enough from that
>>> perspective. But I do agree that the semantics around task_work is
>>> not exactly clear.
>>
>> A good correctness test for cgroup freezer is whether it'd be safe to
>> snapshot and restore the tasks in the cgroup while frozen.
> 
> Well, I don't really understand what can snapshot/restore actually mean...

CRIU, I assume. I'll try it ...

> I forgot everything about cgroup freezer and I am already sleeping, but even
> if we forget about task_work_add/TIF_NOTIFY_SIGNAL/etc, afaics ptrace can
> change the state of cgroup_task_frozen() task between snapshot and restore ?

... but I'm inclined to think the patch makes sense regardless,
we're replacing an infinite loop with wait-wake-execute-wait.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-09 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-07 16:32 [PATCH 0/2] fix task_work interation with freezing Pavel Begunkov
2024-07-07 16:32 ` [PATCH 1/2] io_uring/io-wq: limit retrying worker initialisation Pavel Begunkov
2024-07-07 16:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] kernel: rerun task_work while freezing in get_signal() Pavel Begunkov
2024-07-08 10:42   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-07-08 15:40     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-07-08 18:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-09 10:36       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-07-09 14:05         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-07-09 16:39           ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-09 19:07             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-07-09 19:26               ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2024-07-09 19:38                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-07-09 19:55                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-07-10  0:54                     ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-10 17:53                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-07-10 19:10                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-07-10 19:20                           ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-10 21:34                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-07-10 22:01                               ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-10 22:17                                 ` Oleg Nesterov

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