From: Hao Xu <[email protected]>
To: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>, Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], Joseph Qi <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 5.13 1/2] io_uring: add support for ns granularity of io_sq_thread_idle
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:52:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
在 2021/9/28 下午6:51, Pavel Begunkov 写道:
> On 9/26/21 11:00 AM, Hao Xu wrote:
>> 在 2021/4/30 上午6:15, Pavel Begunkov 写道:
>>> On 4/29/21 4:28 AM, Hao Xu wrote:
>>>> 在 2021/4/28 下午10:07, Pavel Begunkov 写道:
>>>>> On 4/28/21 2:32 PM, Hao Xu wrote:
>>>>>> currently unit of io_sq_thread_idle is millisecond, the smallest value
>>>>>> is 1ms, which means for IOPS > 1000, sqthread will very likely take
>>>>>> 100% cpu usage. This is not necessary in some cases, like users may
>>>>>> don't care about latency much in low IO pressure
>>>>>> (like 1000 < IOPS < 20000), but cpu resource does matter. So we offer
>>>>>> an option of nanosecond granularity of io_sq_thread_idle. Some test
>>>>>> results by fio below:
>>>>>
>>>>> If numbers justify it, I don't see why not do it in ns, but I'd suggest
>>>>> to get rid of all the mess and simply convert to jiffies during ring
>>>>> creation (i.e. nsecs_to_jiffies64()), and leave io_sq_thread() unchanged.
>>>> 1) here I keep millisecond mode for compatibility
>>>> 2) I saw jiffies is calculated by HZ, and HZ could be large enough
>>>> (like HZ = 1000) to make nsecs_to_jiffies64() = 0:
>>>>
>>>> u64 nsecs_to_jiffies64(u64 n)
>>>> {
>>>> #if (NSEC_PER_SEC % HZ) == 0
>>>> /* Common case, HZ = 100, 128, 200, 250, 256, 500, 512, 1000 etc. */
>>>> return div_u64(n, NSEC_PER_SEC / HZ);
>>>> #elif (HZ % 512) == 0
>>>> /* overflow after 292 years if HZ = 1024 */
>>>> return div_u64(n * HZ / 512, NSEC_PER_SEC / 512);
>>>> #else
>>>> /*
>>>> ¦* Generic case - optimized for cases where HZ is a multiple of 3.
>>>> ¦* overflow after 64.99 years, exact for HZ = 60, 72, 90, 120 etc.
>>>> ¦*/
>>>> return div_u64(n * 9, (9ull * NSEC_PER_SEC + HZ / 2) / HZ);
>>>> #endif
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> say HZ = 1000, then nsec_to_jiffies64(1us) = 1e3 / (1e9 / 1e3) = 0
>>>> iow, nsec_to_jiffies64() doesn't work for n < (1e9 / HZ).
>>>
>>> Agree, apparently jiffies precision fractions of a second, e.g. 0.001s
>>> But I'd much prefer to not duplicate all that. So, jiffies won't do,
>>> ktime() may be ok but a bit heavier that we'd like it to be...
>>>
>>> Jens, any chance you remember something in the middle? Like same source
>>> as ktime() but without the heavy correction it does.
>> I'm gonna pick this one up again, currently this patch
>> with ktime_get_ns() works good on our productions. This
>> patch makes the latency a bit higher than before, but
>> still lower than aio.
>> I haven't gotten a faster alternate for ktime_get_ns(),
>> any hints?
>
> Good, I'd suggest to look through Documentation/core-api/timekeeping.rst
> In particular coarse variants may be of interest.
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/core-api/timekeeping.html#coarse-and-fast-ns-access
>
>
> Off topic: it sounds that you're a long user of SQPOLL. Interesting to
> ask how do you find it in general. i.e. does it help much with
> latency? Performance? Anything else?
It helps with the latency and iops(can not surely recall the number now..)
It is useful when many user threads offload IO to just one sqthread.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-29 7:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-28 13:32 [PATCH RFC 5.13 0/2] adaptive sqpoll and its wakeup optimization Hao Xu
2021-04-28 13:32 ` [PATCH RFC 5.13 1/2] io_uring: add support for ns granularity of io_sq_thread_idle Hao Xu
2021-04-28 14:07 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-04-28 14:16 ` Jens Axboe
2021-04-28 14:53 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-04-28 14:54 ` Jens Axboe
2021-04-29 3:41 ` Hao Xu
2021-04-29 9:11 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-05 14:07 ` Hao Xu
2021-05-05 17:40 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-04-29 3:28 ` Hao Xu
2021-04-29 22:15 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-09-26 10:00 ` Hao Xu
2021-09-28 10:51 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-09-29 7:52 ` Hao Xu [this message]
2021-09-29 9:24 ` Hao Xu
2021-09-29 11:37 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-09-29 12:13 ` Hao Xu
2021-09-30 8:51 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-09-30 12:04 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-10-05 15:00 ` Hao Xu
2021-04-28 13:32 ` [PATCH RFC 5.13 2/2] io_uring: submit sqes in the original context when waking up sqthread Hao Xu
2021-04-28 14:12 ` Jens Axboe
2021-04-29 4:12 ` Hao Xu
2021-04-28 14:34 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-04-28 14:37 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-04-29 4:37 ` Hao Xu
2021-04-29 9:28 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-05 11:20 ` Hao Xu
2021-04-28 14:39 ` Jens Axboe
2021-04-28 14:50 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-04-28 14:53 ` Jens Axboe
2021-04-28 14:56 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-04-28 15:09 ` Jens Axboe
2021-04-29 4:43 ` Hao Xu
2021-04-29 8:44 ` Hao Xu
2021-04-29 22:10 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-05-05 13:10 ` Hao Xu
2021-05-05 17:44 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-04-29 22:02 ` Pavel Begunkov
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