From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET 0/3] Improve MSG_RING SINGLE_ISSUER performance
Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 12:31:08 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
On 5/28/24 12:07 PM, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 5/28/24 10:50 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 5/28/24 15:34, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On 5/28/24 7:31 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>> On 5/24/24 23:58, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> A ring setup with with IORING_SETUP_SINGLE_ISSUER, which is required to
>>>>
>>>> IORING_SETUP_SINGLE_ISSUER has nothing to do with it, it's
>>>> specifically an IORING_SETUP_DEFER_TASKRUN optimisation.
>>>
>>> Right, I should change that in the commit message. It's task_complete
>>> driving it, which is tied to DEFER_TASKRUN.
>>>
>>>>> use IORING_SETUP_DEFER_TASKRUN, will need two round trips through
>>>>> generic task_work. This isn't ideal. This patchset attempts to rectify
>>>>> that, taking a new approach rather than trying to use the io_uring
>>>>> task_work infrastructure to handle it as in previous postings.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure why you'd want to piggyback onto overflows, it's not
>>>> such a well made and reliable infra, whereas the DEFER_TASKRUN
>>>> part of the task_work approach was fine.
>>>
>>> It's not right now, because it's really a "don't get into this
>>> condition, if you do, things are slower". And this series doesn't really
>>> change that, and honestly it doesn't even need to. It's still way better
>>> than what we had before in terms of DEFER_TASKRUN and messages.
>>
>> Better than how it is now or comparing to the previous attempt?
>> I think the one using io_uring's tw infra was better, which is
>> where all wake ups and optimisations currently consolidate.
>
> Better than both - I haven't tested with the previous version, but I can
> certainly do that. The reason why I think it'll be better is that it
> avoids the double roundtrips. Yes v1 was using normal task_work which is
> better, but it didn't solve what I think is the fundamental issue here.
>
> I'll forward port it and give it a spin, then we'll know.
I suspect a bug in the previous patches, because this is what the
forward port looks like. First, for reference, the current results:
init_flags=3000
Wait on startup
3767: my fd 3, other 4
3768: my fd 4, other 3
Latencies for: Sender
percentiles (nsec):
| 1.0000th=[ 740], 5.0000th=[ 748], 10.0000th=[ 756],
| 20.0000th=[ 764], 30.0000th=[ 764], 40.0000th=[ 772],
| 50.0000th=[ 772], 60.0000th=[ 780], 70.0000th=[ 780],
| 80.0000th=[ 860], 90.0000th=[ 892], 95.0000th=[ 900],
| 99.0000th=[ 1224], 99.5000th=[ 1368], 99.9000th=[ 1656],
| 99.9500th=[ 1976], 99.9900th=[ 3408]
Latencies for: Receiver
percentiles (nsec):
| 1.0000th=[ 2736], 5.0000th=[ 2736], 10.0000th=[ 2768],
| 20.0000th=[ 2800], 30.0000th=[ 2800], 40.0000th=[ 2800],
| 50.0000th=[ 2832], 60.0000th=[ 2832], 70.0000th=[ 2896],
| 80.0000th=[ 2928], 90.0000th=[ 3024], 95.0000th=[ 3120],
| 99.0000th=[ 4080], 99.5000th=[15424], 99.9000th=[18560],
| 99.9500th=[21632], 99.9900th=[58624]
and here's with io_uring-msg_ring.1, which is just a straight forward
forward port of the previous patches on the same base as v2:
init_flags=3000
Wait on startup
4097: my fd 4, other 3
4096: my fd 3, other 4
Latencies for: Receiver
percentiles (nsec):
| 1.0000th=[ 5920], 5.0000th=[ 5920], 10.0000th=[ 5984],
| 20.0000th=[ 5984], 30.0000th=[ 6048], 40.0000th=[ 6048],
| 50.0000th=[ 6112], 60.0000th=[ 6304], 70.0000th=[ 6368],
| 80.0000th=[ 6560], 90.0000th=[ 6880], 95.0000th=[ 7072],
| 99.0000th=[ 7456], 99.5000th=[ 7712], 99.9000th=[ 8640],
| 99.9500th=[10432], 99.9900th=[26240]
Latencies for: Sender
percentiles (nsec):
| 1.0000th=[ 9536], 5.0000th=[ 9664], 10.0000th=[ 9664],
| 20.0000th=[ 9920], 30.0000th=[ 9920], 40.0000th=[10048],
| 50.0000th=[10176], 60.0000th=[10304], 70.0000th=[10432],
| 80.0000th=[10688], 90.0000th=[10944], 95.0000th=[11328],
| 99.0000th=[11840], 99.5000th=[12096], 99.9000th=[13888],
| 99.9500th=[15424], 99.9900th=[34560]
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-28 18:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-24 22:58 [PATCHSET 0/3] Improve MSG_RING SINGLE_ISSUER performance Jens Axboe
2024-05-24 22:58 ` [PATCH 1/3] io_uring/msg_ring: split fd installing into a helper Jens Axboe
2024-05-24 22:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] io_uring/msg_ring: avoid double indirection task_work for data messages Jens Axboe
2024-05-28 13:18 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-28 14:23 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-28 13:32 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-28 14:23 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-28 16:23 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-28 17:59 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-29 2:04 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-29 2:43 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-24 22:58 ` [PATCH 3/3] io_uring/msg_ring: avoid double indirection task_work for fd passing Jens Axboe
2024-05-28 13:31 ` [PATCHSET 0/3] Improve MSG_RING SINGLE_ISSUER performance Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-28 14:34 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-28 14:39 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-28 15:27 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-28 16:50 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-28 18:07 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-28 18:31 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2024-05-28 23:04 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-29 1:35 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-29 2:08 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-29 2:42 ` Jens Axboe
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