From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org, io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
"Gohad, Tushar" <tushar.gohad@intel.com>,
"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
"Kanchan Joshi" <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
"Anuj Gupta" <anuj20.g@samsung.com>,
"Nitesh Shetty" <nj.shetty@samsung.com>,
"lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] dmabuf backed read/write
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2026 19:06:03 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbcc2912-e1df-491d-b1e0-7812279297de@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260205174135.GA444713@nvidia.com>
On 2/5/26 17:41, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 03, 2026 at 02:29:55PM +0000, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>
>> The proposal consists of two parts. The first is a small in-kernel
>> framework that allows a dma-buf to be registered against a given file
>> and returns an object representing a DMA mapping.
>
> What is this about and why would you need something like this?
>
> The rest makes more sense - pass a DMABUF (or even memfd) to iouring
> and pre-setup the DMA mapping to get dma_addr_t, then directly use
> dma_addr_t through the entire block stack right into the eventual
> driver.
That's more or less what I tried to do in v1, but 1) people didn't like
the idea of passing raw dma addresses directly, and having it wrapped
into a black box gives more flexibility like potentially supporting
multi-device filesystems. And 2) dma-buf folks want dynamic attachments,
and it makes it quite a bit more complicated when you might be asked to
shoot down DMA mappings at any moment, so I'm isolating all that
into something that can be reused.
>> Tushar was helping and mention he got good numbers for P2P transfers
>> compared to bouncing it via RAM.
>
> We can already avoid the bouncing, it seems the main improvements here
> are avoiding the DMA map per-io and allowing the use of P2P without
> also creating struct page. Meanginful wins for sure.
Yes, and it should probably be nicer for frameworks that already
expose dma-bufs.
--
Pavel Begunkov
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2026-02-03 14:29 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] dmabuf backed read/write Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-03 18:07 ` Keith Busch
2026-02-04 6:07 ` Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta
2026-02-04 11:38 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-04 15:26 ` Nitesh Shetty
2026-02-05 3:12 ` Ming Lei
2026-02-05 18:13 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-05 17:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-05 19:06 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2026-02-05 23:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-06 15:08 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-06 15:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-06 17:57 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-06 18:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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